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moto-brock and jmselton© The Spokesman-Review 2005 Previous chats took place in the Gay.com chatroom, where West posted under the screen name therightbi-guy. Starting on Feb. 26, 2005, the chats took place through AOL Instant Messenger, and West changed his screen name to jmselton, an apparent reference to his name, James Elton West. The screen name Moto-Brock was assumed by a forensic computer consultant working for The Spokesman-Review, posing as a teenager online. For more on this part of the investigation, see the story: Online relationships. jmselton: hi motobrock34: hey! jmselton: good to see you here. motobrock34: yeah! was on the Gay.com page earlier jmselton: oh, i just got home. jmselton: you find any nice guys there? motobrock34: lol.....nope jmselton: ok and be careful you know. jmselton: so what did you do all day today? motobrock34: what are you doing now? motobrock34: lol jmselton: just got in the door. motobrock34: great minds? jmselton: how so? jmselton: you been on line for 2 hours? motobrock34: just a sec, let me close the door to my room jmselton: k motobrock34: back jmselton: k jmselton: do anything exciting today? jmselton: you are really slow. motobrock34: damnit....my mom was knocking at the door....geeeze. I got rid of her motobrock34: lol motobrock34: god jmselton: well she probably got suspicious when you closed the door. motobrock34: I think so jmselton: ya motobrock34: well, she's gone I'm sorry jmselton: don't be sorry. jmselton: it's good that she cares about you. motobrock34: yeah, sometimes jmselton: lot of kids don't have that. motobrock34: I know and normally they give me my space motobrock34: I think she just wanted to say good night jmselton: cool jmselton: oh. jmselton: nah motobrock34: she said she was going to bed jmselton: she wanted to know what you were doing.... motobrock34: lol motobrock34: maybe so but I set up my computer so I'll know if they ever look in it but they never have motobrock34: some of my friends parents are all over them jmselton: it happens. motobrock34: they get no privacy at all motobrock34: so anyways motobrock34: sory bout that jmselton: kids get into a lot of trouble in today's world. parents should be concerned. motobrock34: how was ur day motobrock34: ? motobrock34: did ya golf? jmselton: i had a good day. got some stuff done around the house and went to the aviator with a friend. motobrock34: I seen the ads for that, any good? jmselton: it's long. jmselton: Leo did a good job. motobrock34: yeah, I like him alot jmselton: kinda out of his element which was good. jmselton: because he is cute? jmselton: and sexy? motobrock34: lol jmselton: and gay. motobrock34: well he is that motobrock34: he's gay?????????? motobrock34: r u serious? jmselton: at least bi motobrock34: how do u know that? jmselton: don't. jmselton: good rumors to that effect. motobrock34: he's not a friend too is he????? motobrock34: lol jmselton: most people's gaydar goes off around him. motobrock34: Bill Gates isn't gay to is he? motobrock34: lol jmselton: no he's just a nerd motobrock34: J/K motobrock34: rich nerd jmselton: yeah he has way too much money. jmselton: don't fault him for it motobrock34: oh no i don't jmselton: but he shouldn't be so liberal motobrock34: he made it motobrock34: he made it and it's his motobrock34: liberal? jmselton: oh yeah motobrock34: like you mean in ploitics? jmselton: i think he feels guilty about having all that money. jmselton: yeah motobrock34: I never paid attention if he was, i know he gives alot of $$$ away jmselton: yeah, to very liberal causes. motobrock34: to schoools and stuff jmselton: that too. jmselton: anyway. jmselton: he's ok motobrock34: it would be cool just to meet him to say you had jmselton: not a flaming liberal like a lot of them. jmselton: i have and i did motobrock34: cool jmselton: paul allen too motobrock34: wow motobrock34: no shit? jmselton: i told you i went to a seahawks game with paul allen. motobrock34: I must a missed that one? motobrock34: that is so cool! jmselton: it's nice motobrock34: what is he like? jmselton: a bigger nerd than bill gates. jmselton: very shy motobrock34: no shit? jmselton: not all that comfortable around people. motobrock34: I woulda thought the opposite jmselton: doesn't have a lot to say. motobrock34: cause of the rock museum and all that motobrock34: wow motobrock34: god you know so many peiople! jmselton: it's kinda like the revenge of the nerds motobrock34: your job must be in high tech too? jmselton: they couldn't hang with rock stars when they were kids because they were nerds but now that they have more money than god the stars all want to be with them. jmselton: i do lots of things in lots of fields. motobrock34: lol motobrock34: i thought maybe tech stuff since you know those guys motobrock34: but man, like i said, i want your job someday! jmselton: stranger things have happened. jmselton: what are you going to do when you grow up? motobrock34: you know it really makes me feel a little better about my future if you have been so successful and are gay motobrock34: you know...it hasn't effected you motobrock34: i sometimes worry about that motobrock34: that if people find out it will effect things i want to do jmselton: remember i'm very closeted. jmselton: no one knows i like guys jmselton: except the few guys i've been with and highly trusted. motobrock34: yeah i guess thats what i mean though you have kept it to yourself and still made it pretty big motobrock34: so there's hope jmselton: but there are good out role models out there. jmselton: ones that have done ok motobrock34: i think i'd like medicine jmselton: it's just that the openly gay guys are a little over the top for me. jmselton: i don't really like the in your face attitude some guys have jmselton: and the massive political agenda either. jmselton: i say live and let live. jmselton: let everyone find their way. motobrock34: me either, i'd rather just you know, keep it private and let others be themselves too jmselton: yup jmselton: it does make it harder to date that way. motobrock34: really gay guys kind of turn me off jmselton: and there may be a time when you might feel comfortable jmselton: but i agree with you. jmselton: most gay guys turn me off too motobrock34: you know the kind i mean? jmselton: i like str8 acting/looking masculine guys. motobrock34: act like chicks half the time jmselton: not for me. motobrock34: lol...me either jmselton: see i think a motocross guy would be hot. jmselton: or an olympic swimmer. motobrock34: we got a couple of hot ones jmselton: football player might be a bit much. jmselton: depending on size. motobrock34: some of the freestyle guys go to far with the tats and stuff but most of the guys whho ride pro for the factories and stuff aare just good clean cut athletes jmselton: athletes are cool motobrock34: the factories prolly make them stay clean cut jmselton: you ever kissed a guy? motobrock34: thought about it a lot motobrock34: would love to jmselton: you ever beat off with another guy in the room? jmselton: are you good looking? motobrock34: yeah jmselton: how was that.? motobrock34: to both motobrock34: lol jmselton: and how old were you? motobrock34: well, i'm actually gonna be 18 here in less than a month, but don't tell anyone on the page because they won;'t let me in there motobrock34: 2 more weeks jmselton: i won't but you be careful. jmselton: happy birthday. motobrock34: thanks.....I'm pretty stoked jmselton: i thought you were a senior? motobrock34: but you know what? jmselton: what? motobrock34: I am a little nervous about registering for the draft and Iraq....not that I wouldn't go but if it gets bad and they start the draft again that could really fuck up my plans motobrock34: alot of dudes at school are thinking about that jmselton: trust me. they aren't going to start the draft again. motobrock34: graduating this year and being 18 you know motobrock34: it would screw up my plans big time jmselton: and what are your big time plans? motobrock34: but you know, you gotta do what you gotta do motobrock34: well just going to school next year motobrock34: starting college motobrock34: maybe at Pullman but UW has a good permed program jmselton: actually so does wsu. motobrock34: pre-med jmselton: uw has some of its first year med school students start at pullman motobrock34: I heard that jmselton: i have friends that have done it. motobrock34: no kidding? jmselton: no kidding motobrock34: r they in med school now jmselton: and i'm guessing most of your high school friends will be going to pullman motobrock34: or docs jmselton: docs jmselton: or interns jmselton: or residents motobrock34: wow, god you know everyone! jmselton: i don't know the pope motobrock34: sooooooo......if i need a good word getting into a pre med program or med school?????????? jmselton: maybe motobrock34: lol jmselton: i helped out a friends son get into uw law a few years ago. jmselton: and i couldn't even get in there myself. motobrock34: wow....r u serious? You really could maybe help me get in like that>? jmselton: almost met Cuba Gooding Jr. tonight at the Davenport. My friend called about 10 minutes after I left and said that Cuba came in with some of his people. jmselton: maybe but i'd have to know a lot more about you. jmselton: do your pre-med first and lets see how you do. jmselton: what kind of grades are you pulling down? motobrock34: yeah, i gotta get out of farris first!!! motobrock34: lol motobrock34: actually i get really good grades jmselton: really good grades? jmselton: like waht? jmselton: whats your gpa? motobrock34: 3.80 jmselton: pretty good. motobrock34: : ) jmselton: what? you slacked on some classes? motobrock34: I study my ass off! jmselton: hmmm jmselton: thats good. a smart jock. motobrock34: I probably could get a 4.0 but I do sports and sometimes I just run out of time to get everything done at that level jmselton: so what do you make of the Mr. X thing? motobrock34: the teacher right? jmselton: yeah jmselton: did you know him? motobrock34: it was weird he's actually a really nice teacher motobrock34: not real well motobrock34: but he has a goood rep jmselton: not now jmselton: hows the girl doing? motobrock34: naw, not any more motobrock34: noone knows, at least not that I know jmselton: did you know her? motobrock34: no, i heard she was not in school right now jmselton: yeah jmselton: don't suppose so. jmselton: so what did you do today? changing the subject again. motobrock34: I did some homework for one thing! jmselton: ah motobrock34: then I washed my truck jmselton: on a beautiful day like today. motobrock34: then I went shopping with my mom motobrock34: then I listened to the supercross tonight on supercross.cc.com jmselton: you have a truck? and what did you buy? motobrock34: the one in ATlanta motobrock34: well ok, its my parents truck but i use it and its pretty much mine I guess motobrock34: dodge ram jmselton: h mmm big truck motobrock34: I just sort of took it over i guess....lol motobrock34: they got tired of hauling me and my frirends around jmselton: we need to get to know each other so i can borrow it sometime........... with you of course. i need to get some peg board for my garage and need to haul a load to the dump. motobrock34: hey, i'd be happy to help u do that jmselton: i'll have to keep it in mind. motobrock34: yeah, here's a question for u jmselton: ok motobrock34: lets say we just wanted to hook up and meet or maybe whoever you know from the page, how do u do that...how do I go from chatting to meeting motobrock34: chatting is easy motobrock34: I'd be some fucking nervous in person jmselton: i'm always nervous jmselton: how do you think you would do it? motobrock34: I think about all sorts of wild secnarios but I know that it would not be like that probably jmselton: for instance? motobrock34: like meeting at a movie theater and jerking off in like the back row or something jmselton: don't do it. motobrock34: well, thats a fantasy type idea jmselton: you done that before? motobrock34: nooooo jmselton: if you did that do you think you would ever see that guy again? motobrock34: well, i never really planned anything like that so i never thought it through so i guess not motobrock34: how do you meet people? motobrock34: especially from something like a chat? jmselton: carefully. jmselton: so you are asking me to meet you? motobrock34: well, yeah I think I'd like to meet u we seem to chat well like we have things in common but I'd be a nervous wreck jmselton: nervous is good. motobrock34: i'm getting nervous just thinking about it in r/l jmselton: never meet in a private place and never go to someones house to meet. jmselton: never travel a long distance (like cross country) motobrock34: no I would never meet like that jmselton: you are a big guy right? jmselton: meet for coffee or something and just chat. motobrock34: that would be stupid, get the crap beat out of u or something jmselton: it happens jmselton: not just to gay people either. jmselton: there are some sick people in this world. motobrock34: yeah I know and I don't want to meet any of them motobrock34: so I would not meet anyone at their house or anything jmselton: no you wouldn't jmselton: you might meet them in a public place a couple of times and then after you get a feel for them you might go to their house. motobrock34: I don't want to change the subject but I am just now thinking u must have a pretty nice house? jmselton: don't have sex the first time you meet someone. you don't know what they've been doing or what disease they might have. jmselton: it's modest. jmselton: i'm not here that much motobrock34: i c motobrock34: I kind of want a nice house when i'm older jmselton: don't you have one now? jmselton: your folks i mean. motobrock34: I got a couple frirnds with nice ones on Browns Mountain that just rock motobrock34: ours is fine jmselton: mines not as nice as your friends on browns mtn jmselton: i used to live up near there. motobrock34: its a nice -place but I want a REALLY nice place jmselton: behind the grade school on yale road. jmselton: which neighborhood do you live in? motobrock34: r u talking about Moran? jmselton: yeah, that was the school motobrock34: very close to there motobrock34: that neighborhood jmselton: south of 57th or north? motobrock34: south jmselton: those are ok houses. motobrock34: yeah, nice, i got no complaints jmselton: you over by mullan road school. motobrock34: my one friend lives up high above me and his house is freeking unbeievable motobrock34: his dad is a heart surgeon motobrock34: lol jmselton: those are nice houses up there. jmselton: so medicine is the thing motobrock34: but that's not why I wanna be a doc jmselton: OH? motobrock34: well, $$$$ is good, don't get me wrong motobrock34: I want my share! motobrock34: lol motobrock34: you are gonna think this is so lame jmselton: i don't think i will. motobrock34: I kind of want to do a job that I feel helps people jmselton: that is the right reason. jmselton: do what you love and the money will follow. motobrock34: I know everyday you aren't going to be able to help everyone and all that, but more that that's what you go to work for, to help people jmselton: nice sentiment motobrock34: and it pays good too so that's not bad motobrock34: and I've always liked science motobrock34: so it just seems like a good fit jmselton: you like blood? motobrock34: lol....it doen't bother me at all jmselton: good deal jmselton: you have the money for med school? motobrock34: no jmselton: ok then join the army or navy. motobrock34: I'd have to borrow it motobrock34: yeah or that jmselton: serious jmselton: apply for an ROTC Scholarship to college and then apply for med school and have the army or navy pay for it. jmselton: navy is probably best bet. motobrock34: but I heard that if something happens and you can't finish that they own your ass for years jmselton: or even air force. many of the docs in spokane came here via fairchild or the air force. jmselton: pretty rare. motobrock34: I thought about doing that, it would be easier on my parents motobrock34: they have some money but not a lot jmselton: i was ROTC motobrock34: really/ jmselton: yeah motobrock34: ? motobrock34: no shit jmselton: but then I dropped out of school jmselton: and joined the army instead. motobrock34: you were Army right? jmselton: all the way. jmselton: airborne motobrock34: yeah I remember now, u said you were a paratrooper right? jmselton: huah jmselton: yeah motobrock34: that must have been very cool jmselton: it was motobrock34: did they pay for college? jmselton: nah jmselton: i was lazy in high school. jmselton: i think i had about a 3.4 motobrock34: lol...... motobrock34: 3.4 and u were lazy? motobrock34: tha lazy guys I know are 2.4 jmselton: got str8 A's first semester of my senior year just to prove that i could and then slacked off. motobrock34: lol motobrock34: I think I might this semester jmselton: don't it screws up your admission to the good schools. motobrock34: it's hard to do when I'm doing sports but this is a good time for me because football is over and I'm not really riding much yet...although this freeking weather is changing that fast jmselton: yeah jmselton: getting in great shape i'll bet motobrock34: the track won't open for another couple months tho jmselton: which one? motobrock34: The one out in Airway....... jmselton: ah yes motobrock34: hey, where do you work out at? jmselton: home or spokane club. motobrock34: u must go to Spokane club motobrock34: oh lol motobrock34: I guessed right! jmselton: yeah jmselton: you ever been? motobrock34: I went to a wedding reception there once and looked around, pretty cool! jmselton: ah jmselton: your dad isn't a member? motobrock34: one of the guests was a member and took me and my dad around to see the gym and stuff jmselton: ah motobrock34: naw, we are 24hr fitness people jmselton: i thought of it. jmselton: do you go there? motobrock34: sometimes but we got a good gym at school so there isn't much need, i'll go with my mom sometimes to keep her company motobrock34: we have a family deal motobrock34: actually i think its through dads work or something motobrock34: she likes me to go with her because she doesn't know how to use alot of the machines and stuff so i sort of help her out jmselton: thats nice jmselton: 24hour has a reputation of being a gay hangout. especially the one downtown. jmselton: but also the southhill. motobrock34: no way! motobrock34: I never picked up on that motobrock34: everybody seems to just keep to themselves motobrock34: but I'm usually there with mom so maybe thats why motobrock34: can you take guests to the Spk Club to w/o? jmselton: yes motobrock34: ;-) motobrock34: just noticed those little guys jmselton: yeah nice jmselton: do you shower at 24 hour? motobrock34: usually not because my mom doesn't, plus i don't work up a sweat when i'm there with her....lol motobrock34: why????? motobrock34: ;-) jmselton: thats where they are. jmselton: looking for guys to look at. motobrock34: maybe next time my mom drags me down there with her i'll go shower while she plays on the machines....lol jmselton: be careful young man motobrock34: have u ever met anyone from the page before? motobrock34: and how did u do it if u did? motobrock34: Jim? jmselton: i'm here jmselton: sorry motobrock34: thought u got bumped jmselton: nope jmselton: i'm here jmselton: ok so you are interested in meeting a guy? motobrock34: yeah i think i am have you ever met anyone from online before and how did u do it if u did? jmselton: i have jmselton: most were big disappointments. motobrock34: well i KNOW i'm interested jmselton: guys i'd not be interested in meeting in REAL life. jmselton: lot of guys lie jmselton: guys i wouldn't hang with motobrock34: whats to lie about? jmselton: their looks, their habits, their interests. ;-) jmselton: some even their age. jmselton: actually a lot their age. motobrock34: they are older than what they say or younger? jmselton: usually older. but then didn't you lie too? jmselton: ;-) motobrock34: well, i am bascically 18 anyways but i had to put 18 down to get on the page jmselton: understand jmselton: its ok motobrock34: :-[ jmselton: sad? jmselton: now? motobrock34: well, i feel a little bad but geeeze, i am 18 in two weeks anyway motobrock34: embarrased jmselton: forgetaboutit motobrock34: lol motobrock34: i'm stoked to be 18 anyways motobrock34: so anyways, when u did meet how did u do it so it wasn't uncomfortable? jmselton: yeah good deal jmselton: it is always uncomfortable. jmselton: because you are exposing your identity to a stranger. motobrock34: yeah thats true jmselton: and you might want to have sex and you're not sure you do. motobrock34: what if u know me or my dad or something jmselton: i may already. don't know though. motobrock34: you know flipping everybody you prolly do! jmselton: it would cool for me but you might get scared or nervous motobrock34: oh man I'd shit my pants jmselton: now that would be messy motobrock34: I want to experience it, I know I am gay, or at least very bisexual but I just don't know what to do motobrock34: i'm tired of looking at pics on the net jmselton: i c motobrock34: sometimes it kind of makes me nuts motobrock34: lol jmselton: well first even though the legal age of consent in washington is 16 you should wait until you are 18 jmselton: you'll like it when you experience it. jmselton: whatever you do -- don't do anal with anyone motobrock34: March 10 jmselton: happy birthday. where do i send the present? motobrock34: lol.......i think i'd like to get a present from u jmselton: what do you want? my autographed basketball from the 2003-4 Zags, my autographed football from the 2002 Seahawks, my autographed football signed by Paul Allen and Dennis Erickson, or my Edgar Martinez autographed Rookie Card that I got two weeks ago when he was in town. Or maybe you'd like my autographed Seahawks baseball cap signed by #1 Warren Moon? motobrock34: holy shit jmselton: they're just laying around gathering dust. motobrock34: u r kidding aren't u? jmselton: no jmselton: i'm not. motobrock34: oh man i don't know what to say to that....holy crap jmselton: they were gifts except the rookie card which i bought and had Edgar sign for me. motobrock34: oh man, i'd do anything for that football! motobrock34: that is incerdible motobrock34: I think i like bein your friend! jmselton: hmmm anything? motobrock34: hell yeah! jmselton: i can't think of anything you have I'd want. ;-) motobrock34: i bet if u think about it you can motobrock34: lol jmselton: nah jmselton: priceless motobrock34: wow motobrock34: well, it sounds like it would be a hell of a b/day jmselton: how would you explain it to your dad? jmselton: he'd come beat the shit out of me. motobrock34: would u like suck me or me u? motobrock34: lol jmselton: thats kinda forward isn't it.? motobrock34: naw, i'd tell him my coach gave it to me or somethin jmselton: don't ever directly lie. motobrock34: i'd think of something! jmselton: better motobrock34: where could i get something like that??? jmselton: because he'd see your coach and thank him and the coach would blow your story. jmselton: lies suck motobrock34: on e-bay what would something like that cost? motobrock34: yeah i know jmselton: don't know. maybe i'll sell it there. motobrock34: no! motobrock34: i want it! jmselton: which football? motobrock34: the 02 one signed by the players? jmselton: ok jmselton: so maybe i'll visit the school and tell the principal that i'm holding a contest and the senior football player with the best grades gets the football. and i meet you there. motobrock34: no shit? jmselton: it could happen. motobrock34: god, that would scare the crap out of me i think jmselton: would that blow you away? jmselton: do you have the best grades on the team? motobrock34: i think so yeah jmselton: it would be a shame if you were number 2 or something. jmselton: haha motobrock34: i think i would be shitting my pants motobrock34: lol jmselton: theres that mess again. motobrock34: yeah messy i know jmselton: you do that a lot? motobrock34: lol motobrock34: damn motobrock34: well i do when i'm talking to u! jmselton: i see jmselton: so you riding somewhere tomorrow? jmselton: do you ever just ride the C-trail? motobrock34: yeah my buddy has a private track and if it's still nice i think i will, thats why i did my h/w today motobrock34: C-trial? jmselton: centential trail. motobrock34: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh motobrock34: lol jmselton: is that the buddy you beat off with? motobrock34: naw, this dude would flip out if he knew jmselton: ah jmselton: how long ago did you do that? motobrock34: i've done it a couple of times when i had friends sleep over, which hasn't happened in awhile motobrock34: little too old for sleepovers now jmselton: ah jmselton: so both of you together did it? motobrock34: he didn't know jmselton: what? you beat off while he was asleep? motobrock34: i did that a couple of different times, once when we were still awake and talking jmselton: ah, did he join in? motobrock34: lights were out motobrock34: he didn't know, at least i'm pretty sure he didnt jmselton: oh he knew... jmselton: trust me. jmselton: did he ever come back? motobrock34: i was in bed and he was in a bag on the floor and we were talking motobrock34: oh yeah, hes still kind of a friend motobrock34: not as good a one as he used to be but he got a gf so motobrock34: you know jmselton: did you talk about beating off? jmselton: i know motobrock34: no i could tell he 3wasn't like me jmselton: like he can tell you aren't like you? motobrock34: I honestly don't think anyone can tell no jmselton: if they can't tell about you how can you be so sure about them? motobrock34: i think the people who know me would freak jmselton: i know they would about me. motobrock34: the one thing that i think I would notice if i was them is that i don't have a g/f motobrock34: and chicks at school like me motobrock34: so i could if i wanted motobrock34: I would notice that if i was them jmselton: yeah but lots of guys your age don't have gfs jmselton: i didn't. i dated but didn't have a gf motobrock34: well or date much jmselton: went to dances sometimes motobrock34: i date sometimes when i kind of have to but not at all like my friends motobrock34: yeah me too jmselton: i understand that. jmselton: i still date women once in awhile. motobrock34: they are ok jmselton: like last weekend i went to a charity dinner auction and took a date. motobrock34: I don't hate being around them or anything motobrock34: they just don't turn me on that way jmselton: understand jmselton: but kissing me would do it? motobrock34: ummmm......it sure feels like it jmselton: ok, well i'm off to bed. you be careful out there. we should meet up sometime. your call. take care. motobrock34: i'd like to motobrock34: u mentioned golf jmselton: you don't golf motobrock34: and a b-day present motobrock34: no i totally suck at it but that doens't mean i wouldn't go jmselton: ah jmselton: ok, well i'm off to bed. jmselton: thanks for the email by the way. motobrock34: ok jim.....it was fun again jmselton: they are nice. jmselton: take care. motobrock34: yeah, yous too motobrock34: bye!jmselton: and remember don't give yourself a scap stroking too hard. jmselton: scab jmselton: i did that a couple of times when i was your age. the fiction was unbelievable. jmselton: haha motobrock34: lol....i will be tonight jmselton: wish you were here motobrock34: this has made me really horny motobrock34: yeah me too jmselton: sigh motobrock34: lol motobrock34: maybe in a couopld weeks? jmselton: maybe motobrock34: :-P jmselton: keep the emails up. jmselton: night. motobrock34: i will jmselton signed off at 11:52:51 PM.
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