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moto-brock and therightbi-guy© The Spokesman-Review 2005 EDITOR'S NOTE This is a corrected version of the Feb. 19, 2005, online chat between moto-brock and the therightbi-guy. The original version posted by The Spokesman-Review inadvertently did not include the first 19 lines of the chat and also included sections that were out of order from the sequence in which they originally occurred. This corrected version does not change the nature nor substantive content of the online chat that was originally posted. This chat took place in the Gay.com chatroom, where Jim West posted under the screen name therightbi-guy. The screen name Moto-Brock was assumed by a forensic computer consultant working for The Spokesman-Review, posing as a teenager online. For more on this part of the investigation, see the story: Online relationships.
moto-brock: that's a cool pic .. is it Mt. St. Helens? therightbi-guy: rainer moto-brock: oh my bad therightbi-guy: not at all moto-brock: it's a cool pic therightbi-guy: unusual view from the east moto-brock: I snowboard a little moto-brock: never been there though moto-brock: u ski or snowboard? therightbi-guy: taken from hwy from yelm on the west to yakima on the east moto-brock: I thought maybe it was St. Helens because it looked short on top moto-brock: but st. Helens would have a big ass hole in it I guess moto-brock: lol moto-brock: u ski? Sorry, I'm just bored therightbi-guy: I don't ski therightbi-guy: and you are doing just fine therightbi-guy: I'm bored when I come here too therightbi-guy: but hope to find someone to do stuff with therightbi-guy: to releave the boredom moto-brock: I just got an account a couple weeks ago, not much happens therightbi-guy: nope therightbi-guy: not much moto-brock: what kind of stuff u do? therightbi-guy: for fun or you talking sex here? moto-brock: lol moto-brock: for fun mostly therightbi-guy: good moto-brock: I have to tell you I'm a virgin so I can't talk much sex moto-brock: lol therightbi-guy: well, I like to camp, hike, scuba dive, boat moto-brock: oh man, I always wanted to lean how to scuba moto-brock: it just looks so cool therightbi-guy: it is therightbi-guy: I used to be an instructor therightbi-guy: learned in the army moto-brock: its kind of expensive to get into isn't it? moto-brock: were you like a Ranger or something? moto-brock: in the Army therightbi-guy: paratrooper moto-brock: cool therightbi-guy: it isn't expensive to get into but it is expensive to buy all the stuff therightbi-guy: but you really don't need all the stuff therightbi-guy: it's just like skiing therightbi-guy: lessons are cheap but equipment is expensive therightbi-guy: and lift tickets are too moto-brock: can you rent it? therightbi-guy: oh yeah moto-brock: how much do you usually have to spend to just try it out? therightbi-guy: sometimes it is free therightbi-guy: stores will give you a trial lesson to try to sell you the stuff moto-brock: really
how would I do that? moto-brock: really? Wow therightbi-guy: go to a store and ask moto-brock: u ever go anyplace cool to dive? moto-brock: like Hawaii? therightbi-guy: oh yeah. Hawaii but I prefer the Bahamas therightbi-guy: love to go to the Bahamas therightbi-guy: and mexico therightbi-guy: or even Puget sound but it's too cold for me anymore moto-brock: I always thought it would be cool to dive on the wrecks in Hawaii moto-brock: Bahamas would be awesome therightbi-guy: better wrecks off the coast of North Carolina therightbi-guy: Bahamas are awesome for a lot of reasons moto-brock: my parents have been but they didn't take me, even tho I begged lol therightbi-guy: begged
LOL therightbi-guy: how old are you? moto-brock: 18 therightbi-guy: oh ok therightbi-guy: you in high school? moto-brock: Ferris therightbi-guy: ok moto-brock: that ok? therightbi-guy: I'm 47yo therightbi-guy: yes, it's ok therightbi-guy: we're not sexually involved therightbi-guy: just chatting here therightbi-guy: do your friends know you like guys? moto-brock: I didn't look at your profile, I just saw your pic in the chat room, but it doesn't matter to me, you have just done some fun stuff moto-brock: no definitely not moto-brock: no one knows moto-brock: at least that knows me moto-brock: unless they get my computer I guess moto-brock: but my parents are cool, they give me space therightbi-guy: do your parents know? moto-brock: nooooooooooo therightbi-guy: mine either, haha moto-brock: do people know you are? therightbi-guy: nor do my friends therightbi-guy: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO therightbi-guy: and please don't tell moto-brock: lol therightbi-guy: thank you moto-brock: same boat moto-brock: I dunno, I think about telling my mom sometimes but I just don't see why I need to moto-brock: my parents are cool and we have a good relationship and I don't know if that might mess it up therightbi-guy: she'll love you no matter what therightbi-guy: is you dad still around? moto-brock: oh yeah, I live here with both of them therightbi-guy: oh ok, you just mentioned your mom moto-brock: I just assumed u were in Spokane
. Ru? moto-brock: I'm on the s.hill therightbi-guy: I'm in Spokane therightbi-guy: I used to live on the south hill therightbi-guy: but now by qualchan golf course therightbi-guy: hey be careful with some of the guys in the Spokane chat room moto-brock: oh geeze
.. that's a nice place therightbi-guy: it is moto-brock: yeah? moto-brock: how come? therightbi-guy: but I assume if you go to ferris you live in a nice place too therightbi-guy: just be careful moto-brock: like disease u mean or what? moto-brock: or just creepy therightbi-guy: some of both therightbi-guy: creepy more therightbi-guy: can I ask something personal? moto-brock: ok, yeah I can see that, some of the IM's I get are gross moto-brock: sure therightbi-guy: have you had an experience with a guy? moto-brock:
. Well, no, not really, not in person moto-brock: but not girls either so moto-brock: I have lots of girl friends, I probably could get sex any time I wanted if I was attracted to girls moto-brock: but maybe that's why they like me, cause I don't act interested therightbi-guy: yeah, that was the way it was with me too moto-brock: ru married or anything? therightbi-guy: was but not now therightbi-guy: you play sports? moto-brock: yeah, love sports moto-brock: football and I race motocross
that's why it's moto-brock moto-brock: but I like all kinds of sports moto-brock: but with school I only have time for those two therightbi-guy: motocross as in motorcycle or bikes moto-brock: motorcycles therightbi-guy: cool moto-brock: u know that sport at all? therightbi-guy: not really therightbi-guy: watch on tv therightbi-guy: ever seen the movie "On Any Sunday"? therightbi-guy: that kinda explains your picture here moto-brock: I'm pretty good at it but not good enough to race on TV therightbi-guy: it will come moto-brock: one of my buddies does though, he's with the Supercross tour right now therightbi-guy: what position in football? therightbi-guy: oh wow therightbi-guy: that's good and kewl moto-brock: racing in San Diego tonight, hopefully if the rain doesn't wash the track away therightbi-guy: ah therightbi-guy: do you travel for racing? moto-brock: yeah, we go to Oregon, Idaho and California moto-brock: my dad used to be pretty serious about it and got me started moto-brock: it's a great sport therightbi-guy: good deal moto-brock: I train my ass off moto-brock: lol therightbi-guy: so you have no interest in girls? moto-brock: you know, I try to moto-brock: and I go out on dates and stuff therightbi-guy: yeah therightbi-guy: and therightbi-guy: nothing huh? moto-brock: and I don't not like girls I just don't get turned on by them therightbi-guy: do you get turned on by guys? moto-brock: yes therightbi-guy: or is it just because you don't get turned on by girls moto-brock: I know I'm gay
. Or at least very bi-sexual therightbi-guy: I think I was in the same place when I was your age therightbi-guy: I dated because I was expected to moto-brock: because guys bodies are hot lol moto-brock: I wonder about getting married therightbi-guy: all the guys talked about their conquests but I never felt like they said they did moto-brock: because I probably wouldn't be a very good husband in some ways therightbi-guy: so I wondered if I was different therightbi-guy: lots of guys don't marry until real late and some not at all moto-brock: what was it like being married therightbi-guy: I was 40 when I was married therightbi-guy: it wasn't what I wanted therightbi-guy: but she was younger moto-brock: did she know anything about being bi or gay? therightbi-guy: I've always like people younger than me, just felt more comfortable with people either older or younger therightbi-guy: no she didn't and doesn't to this day moto-brock: see, I think that would be so hard to do therightbi-guy: we had sex, she said I was good therightbi-guy: too therightbi-guy: but sometimes when she gave me head, I wondered what it would be like with a guy moto-brock: I probably could have sex with a girl if I had to, or even wanted to, it doesn't gross me out, but it's just that I don't have any interest in it therightbi-guy: but you have interest in it with a guy? moto-brock: and it was better with a girl? therightbi-guy: when I was your age I had a couple of friends that we'd beat off together therightbi-guy: see above therightbi-guy: yes it has been better with a girl therightbi-guy: but they are different therightbi-guy: when I went to college a fraternity brother was gay therightbi-guy: he kept hitting on me but there was no way I'd admit being gay moto-brock: I sometimes wonder if I should do it with a girl to see what it's like but I don't think it would be right therightbi-guy: it wouldn't moto-brock: because if she thought we were gonna have that kind of relationship it wouldn't be fair moto-brock: but I'm very curious to try with another guy therightbi-guy: you are? therightbi-guy: be careful therightbi-guy: be sure it is with someone you can trust moto-brock: there just has never been anyone I would feel comfortable even hinting around with therightbi-guy: I know that feeling moto-brock: no way would I ask anyone at school moto-brock: none of my guy friends would even guess I was moto-brock: so I figured maybe when I go to college therightbi-guy: yeah maybe so moto-brock: I'm hoping to go to Pullman moto-brock: we'll see therightbi-guy: I really waited until after I was divorced moto-brock: so you didn't until you were in your 40s??? moto-brock: I don't want to wait that long lol therightbi-guy: I had an experience in college moto-brock: did you go anywhere around here? moto-brock: to college I mean therightbi-guy: I graduated from gonzaga but first went out of state. My experience was when I was out of state therightbi-guy: had few friends there moto-brock: and one of the reasons I want to go to Pullman is to be far enough away to be myself therightbi-guy: but you'll move out by your soph year therightbi-guy: Pullman may not be far enough moto-brock: yeah, I thought about that too moto-brock: there are a few people I know from Ferris that are going to Pullman therightbi-guy: how about western? therightbi-guy: or even central? therightbi-guy: are you good enuf to play college football? moto-brock: my parents really can't afford much other than Gonzaga or Pullman moto-brock: no I wish I was moto-brock: I'd like to try out moto-brock: I'm sure I'll play moto-brock: but not enough to get any help moto-brock: my size is just not that great and I'm just a little too slow for like a tight end position moto-brock: I'm fast enough to play, but just not quite fast enough to be great at those positions moto-brock: I actually think that my motocross training and all the racing keeps me from getting very muscular moto-brock: it's much more of an aerobic sport moto-brock: so I am always pretty lean therightbi-guy: hey I got booted sorry moto-brock: np therightbi-guy: did you miss me? moto-brock: I was going on and on
lol therightbi-guy: oh sorry therightbi-guy: so what did you say? therightbi-guy: my name is Jim by the way moto-brock: I'm Brock therightbi-guy: that makes sense moto-brock: I was talking about football
. Did you get that part? therightbi-guy: not a very gay name there Brock therightbi-guy: no moto-brock: I'm not good enough to get any help but I'd like to play therightbi-guy: being recruited at all? therightbi-guy: oh, so maybe a walk on? moto-brock: I'll definitely try out for the team
what I was saying was moto-brock: I'm not really big enough to play my regular outside linebacker position in college and I'm just a little too slow to play a defensive end or position like that therightbi-guy: oh, so maybe a smaller school? moto-brock: I'm fast enough to play it, but not fast enough to play it really well moto-brock: the motocross racing and training has kept me pretty lean therightbi-guy: I would think so therightbi-guy: that is tougher than most people realize I think moto-brock: yeah, I know eastern has an ok team and they do pretty well but I also want to go to a good college therightbi-guy: believe it or not, Eastern is a good college therightbi-guy: but may still be too close to home therightbi-guy: how about one of the Montana schools therightbi-guy: or one of the Idaho ones? moto-brock: yeah, those are possibilities therightbi-guy: did you dad name you after Brock Huard? therightbi-guy: no I guess not he's not that much older than you moto-brock: lol
I don't know that name? moto-brock: he told me he liked the name anyway but one of his fav racers in the 80s or something was named Brock therightbi-guy: ah therightbi-guy: wasn't Brock Huard the QB at UW? moto-brock: oh yeah
maybe so, I don't know how to spell his name therightbi-guy: yeah therightbi-guy: np moto-brock: you were a paratropper? therightbi-guy: do you also play golf? therightbi-guy: I was moto-brock: lol moto-brock: that must have been awesome, were you in any conflicts? therightbi-guy: no therightbi-guy: stayed stateside for my whole tour moto-brock: so u just got to work out all the time moto-brock: lol therightbi-guy: yeah therightbi-guy: but I wasn't in that great of shape moto-brock: I've thought about doing that
it would make things easier on my parents if I did the college officer deal therightbi-guy: you're probably way ahead of where I was at your age therightbi-guy: ROTC was good to me too. moto-brock: well, I like sports and I like being in shape
so that part of it is fun for me therightbi-guy: that's good moto-brock: I would enjoy the physical challenge of it, I think therightbi-guy: why aren't you watching Gonzaga game? moto-brock: oh crap .. I forgot it was on, has it started? moto-brock: I watch, but BB isn't really my thing therightbi-guy: it's half over moto-brock: I just play with my friends, but I kinda suck therightbi-guy: 55 48 therightbi-guy: suck huh? moto-brock: lol moto-brock: well, I'd like to anyway moto-brock: lol moto-brock: you watching at home I take it? therightbi-guy: yeah hope you don't mind therightbi-guy: it's in the background moto-brock: no, not at all therightbi-guy: went to Eastern's game Thursday therightbi-guy: going down to see gonzaga in the WCC tournament next month moto-brock: GU is ahead? therightbi-guy: you been there therightbi-guy: I've been to some football games there therightbi-guy: not in a couple of years though therightbi-guy: usually in the pressbox too moto-brock: no shit? therightbi-guy: no shit therightbi-guy: do you go to mariners game? moto-brock: man, I wanna go with you! therightbi-guy: ok moto-brock: really? therightbi-guy: but wouldn't your folks wonder what you were doing with a 47 yo guy? therightbi-guy: yes sure moto-brock: your not serious are u? therightbi-guy: it could happen therightbi-guy: aren't you a senior? moto-brock: don't tell me u get the press box for the mariners too? moto-brock: yes I am therightbi-guy: no owners box there therightbi-guy: you are 18 right? moto-brock: !!!!!!!! moto-brock: you are flipping kidding me moto-brock: yeah therightbi-guy: no I wouldn't do that moto-brock: I take it you have a pretty good job therightbi-guy: I had Edgar Martinez here last week for a fundraiser. Got him to sign his rookie card for me. therightbi-guy: I do ok therightbi-guy: he signed bats for others. I should have thought of that moto-brock: man I'm dieing therightbi-guy: yeah moto-brock: that is flipping incredible moto-brock: I want that job therightbi-guy: ok therightbi-guy: nah therightbi-guy: you can't have my job therightbi-guy: took me a long time to get it moto-brock: lol moto-brock: what do u do, or can u tell me? therightbi-guy: rather not say right now ok? moto-brock: np moto-brock: actually, I can understand if you hang out with people like that therightbi-guy: thanks moto-brock: that make sense actually therightbi-guy: I'll tell you if we ever meet moto-brock: I'd be the same way about Ferris
.. lol therightbi-guy: we will need to protect each other moto-brock: but are you serious, you'd really let me get in the press box? moto-brock: because I have to tell you moto-brock: when I go with my dad or my friends we are usually freezing our asses off moto-brock: I was at the Stanford game this year and I was soaked completely through by the first quarter moto-brock: took a lot of the fun out of it therightbi-guy: barely moto-brock: back
. How much time left? therightbi-guy: 6:11 up by 5 moto-brock: I could go watch it in the other room, but I was enjoying chatting therightbi-guy: good me too moto-brock: not interrupting the game I hope? therightbi-guy: hope I haven't been therightbi-guy: not at all moto-brock: cool therightbi-guy: you are nice moto-brock: yeah, so are u therightbi-guy: hope I'm not too nosy therightbi-guy: or rude moto-brock: not at all therightbi-guy: thanks moto-brock: no, there are guys on here who are moto-brock: but not you therightbi-guy: thanks moto-brock: yw therightbi-guy: sometimes when you are online you can say stuff that comes across bad moto-brock: my computer is in my room and if I'm in here with the door closed I don't get bothered. therightbi-guy: ok therightbi-guy: I got no problem with that moto-brock: your not Bill gates are you? moto-brock: lol moto-brock: jk therightbi-guy: no but I've met him a few times and I do consider his dad a friend. Although his dad is a lot older than I am moto-brock: you are fricking kidding me moto-brock: you have met him? therightbi-guy: In fact the first time I remember seeing Bill Gates, I was at brunch with my father-in-law and the UW president at a brunch for alumna and supporters before a (UNREADABLE) therightbi-guy: not yet I don't moto-brock: now I really am jk therightbi-guy: jk? moto-brock: just kidding moto-brock: I'm not fast enough for any big time sponsors therightbi-guy: I'm not that rich, just get to be places where I get to meet rich people. moto-brock: wish I was therightbi-guy: you might someday therightbi-guy: what will you do for money later in life? moto-brock: I get a little better every year but when I ride with my buddy who is on the Supercross tour I see that he is just light years faster than me moto-brock: Supercross moto-brock: good question
I got some ideas moto-brock: sports medicine seems really cool therightbi-guy: yeah could be moto-brock: and I get good grades therightbi-guy: good therightbi-guy: med school? moto-brock: maybe therightbi-guy: gu up by 2 therightbi-guy: 2:20 therightbi-guy: batista fouled moto-brock: it's a long way off but I seems like it would be cool combining medicine with athletics therightbi-guy: yeah therightbi-guy: not so long to begin thinking about it moto-brock: well, I keep my grades up in case it's what I decide to do therightbi-guy: that's good moto-brock: law school too maybe
. Then I'd probably go to Gonzaga therightbi-guy: maybe if you can't play you could be a trainer therightbi-guy: is your dad a lawyer? therightbi-guy: that's ok therightbi-guy: cars? moto-brock: no losses in the house the fans must be nuts therightbi-guy: look stunned moto-brock: yeah therightbi-guy: ok therightbi-guy: 1:06 moto-brock: he does ok but my parents are not rich moto-brock: but I'm an only child so I get spoiled anyway : therightbi-guy: none of us are therightbi-guy: that's cool as well therightbi-guy: batista on the line. Tie therightbi-guy: 47.6 moto-brock: I used to miss having bro and sis but I kind of like it now therightbi-guy: ahead by one therightbi-guy: trouble moto-brock: oh man! therightbi-guy: trouble: therightbi-guy: foul therightbi-guy: on GU therightbi-guy: 27.5 moto-brock: oh oh therightbi-guy: trouble therightbi-guy: miss therightbi-guy: tie therightbi-guy: tie therightbi-guy: time out gu 20.4 moto-brock: oh geeze therightbi-guy: so anyway therightbi-guy: sorry moto-brock: I heard my dad in the other room therightbi-guy: I would think therightbi-guy: so what did you think of the school district and that gay dance at ferris? moto-brock: we get along ok, I think he'd be upset if he knew about me therightbi-guy: he'd love you as well moto-brock: I think so too but he's kind of a mans man therightbi-guy: Morrison for 3 moto-brock: ah! therightbi-guy: 5 seconds left therightbi-guy: go ferris!!!! therightbi-guy: Morrison career high of 28 points moto-brock: awesome therightbi-guy: oh wait Morrison was mead therightbi-guy: sorry moto-brock: time out? therightbi-guy: yeah therightbi-guy: 0.6 on clock moto-brock: score? therightbi-guy: 75 73 moto-brock: AH! therightbi-guy: over therightbi-guy: basket at the buzzer therightbi-guy: may not be over moto-brock: no! therightbi-guy: should be no good therightbi-guy: game over therightbi-guy: game over by .0001 seconds moto-brock: oh man! moto-brock: wow therightbi-guy: great finish moto-brock: hey, good game call
maybe you should be a sports caster therightbi-guy: GU needs to do better therightbi-guy: so back to our chat moto-brock: lol therightbi-guy: so can I ask a question? moto-brock: I listen to the Supercross on the web and the two guys who call it do such a good job it's better than watching on ESPN moto-brock: sure therightbi-guy: what did you think of when you showered at school? moto-brock: I try like hell not to get hard therightbi-guy: ok then. I remember that from my school days therightbi-guy: haha moto-brock: keep the conversation light moto-brock: think about homework moto-brock: stuff like that therightbi-guy: haha therightbi-guy: ok therightbi-guy: but you enjoy the view? moto-brock: yeah moto-brock: yeah I do therightbi-guy: ok moto-brock: but I can't look too much cause I'm afraid someone will notice therightbi-guy: and what do you think of when you beat off? therightbi-guy: understand moto-brock: and if they said something they might be able to tell from reaction that something wasn't right therightbi-guy: nah therightbi-guy: don't worry about that therightbi-guy: what do you think of when you beat off? moto-brock: well lately, I look at guys on the net therightbi-guy: ic therightbi-guy: hey, I'm enjoying this moto-brock: that's why I wouldn't want my computer searched therightbi-guy: got to go to a cancer fundraising dinner moto-brock: np therightbi-guy: it is a problem therightbi-guy: I want to keep chatting with you moto-brock: you have my curiosity up about your job therightbi-guy: when we meet I'll tell you moto-brock: you must have big bucks therightbi-guy: no but I make good money moto-brock: but you are still really cool therightbi-guy: thanks therightbi-guy: haha therightbi-guy: how will I stay in touch with you? moto-brock: I want to be like that I'd like to make good money but not be an asshole about it therightbi-guy: do you have AIM? moto-brock: want my yahoo email? moto-brock: ? therightbi-guy: sure moto-brock: moto_brock@yahoo.com moto-brock: do you use yahoo ever? therightbi-guy: nah moto-brock: AOL? therightbi-guy: AOL InstantMessenger. AIM moto-brock: we have Comcast but I think I can download aim anyway moto-brock: without aol therightbi-guy: yes you can therightbi-guy: I did moto-brock: AOL always wants to take over your computer lol therightbi-guy: I don't have aol therightbi-guy: I don't like aol moto-brock: I'll download it moto-brock: what is your aol therightbi-guy: Im a decent guy therightbi-guy: and I want to be your friend therightbi-guy: give you help where and when you need it moto-brock: I think I'd like being your friend
especially if you get us into the pres box at Pullman! moto-brock: lol moto-brock: jk therightbi-guy: send me email when you get aim moto-brock: no really, you seem like a really nice guy therightbi-guy: thanks moto-brock: the nicest I've met online therightbi-guy: thanks moto-brock: yw moto-brock: have fun at your deal therightbi-guy: maybe we can go to mariner games this year therightbi-guy: thanks therightbi-guy: got to shower and go moto-brock: that would be so flippin awesome therightbi-guy: did you get my mail? moto-brock: hey before you go therightbi-guy: yes moto-brock: I will be listening to the Supercross in san diego online tonight to listen about my friend moto-brock: so I'll be on later therightbi-guy: yes? therightbi-guy: you wanna chat again? therightbi-guy: gotta go moto-brock: yep I'll look for u later moto-brock: got ur mail too moto-brock: see ya therightbi-guy: ok therightbi-guy: hey, you ok sending me your pic? moto-brock: yeah, I think so moto-brock: you won't do anything with it will you?
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