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The story: After 25-years in prison, convicted "South Hill" rapist, Frederick "Kevin" Coe, is scheduled to be released this September.
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In 1980, the city of Spokane lost its innocence. A rapist, preying mostly on woman living on the city's South Hill, had police frustrated as the mounting toll of victims began to attract media attention. The perpetrator was recast as the South Hill rapist and panic began to descend on the city. Finally in the spring of 1981 a break in the case led to the arrest of Frederick "Kevin" Coe whose father happened to be the managing editor of the Spokane Daily Chronicle newspaper. After two trials and having served 25-years in prison, Coe is scheduled to be released this September. Now state prosecutors are looking at filing a civil case that could keep Coe behind bars for the rest of his life.

I lived on the South Hill during Kevin Coe’s reign of terror. Men were afraid to go jogging for fear of being labeled the South Hill rapist. Women walked in groups and were escorted to their cars after work. This slideshow is really for people who didn’t live in Spokane at this time. As Coe's release date approaches, much more will be written about this high-profile case. With this audio slideshow, I wanted to bring people not familiar with the case up to speed. A special thanks to Deputy Features Editor Rick Bonino for writing and narrating the slideshow on such short notice. Rick was a young reporter who actually covered the Coe trial back in 1981.

I am very surprised that the court system would even consider releasing someone like Kevin Coe. I truly thought he was put away for life. He wouldn't last on the outside anyway. JH-Coeur d'Alene

I was only 4-5 years old when kevin coe raped women all over spokane but I just finished the book "Son" 3 days ago. The next day I see on the front of the paper that he is due for release and I was shocked. How could they release this man back into society? I feel that kevin coe got off lightly on his convictions and my heart goes out to all the women who will never get justice for what was done to them. I think kevin coe could be the poster boy for chemical castration for what he did. He is a truly a sick individual and at the least should be locked away getting psychiatric help for the rest of his life.

PLEASE DONT LET HIM GO FREE.IM A RAPE VICTIM THIRTHY YEARS AGO.LETTING HIM GO FREE WOULD BE LIKE BEING RAPED ALL OVER AGAIN.I GREW UP IN SPOKANE SOMEDAY I WANT TO COME BACK TO SPOKANE AND LIVE WITHOUT FEAR.
THANK YOU

I was 10yrs. old growing up on the South Hill when Coe was raping innocent victims. One of my good friends growing up mother was raped! Currently I'm a graduate student in Walla Walla doing some work at the Penitentiary and I'm told Coe sits in front of the T.V. everyday watching Shelly Monohan. This man is sick and should stay within the confines of prison.

I have read "Son" and I currently work for a local hospital and we work with the criminal insane. I do not believe that Kevin Coe should ever be released. I hope that the Spokane County prosecuting attorneys can find just cause to file the civil suit, we do not need this man back in Spokane. I do not believe the man has been rehabilitated and needs to remain in a secure environment till his death.

As scary and shocking as it might be to many people (the victims notwithstanding), when a felon has finished serving his or her sentence, they deserve to be thoroughly evaluated by professionals and at least given the chance to be set free with closely supervised parole. If Coe were released it is my opinion that he would NOT return to Spokane and, he would be so closely monitored (wherever he was allowed to move) that he would not have a chance to re-offend. How can we be so quick to judge and spread unnecessary fear when we really do not know firsthand how well an individual has been rehabilitated? How can we say we live in a truly democratic society when we don't even open ourselves up to the possibility of second chances--even for creeps like Coe?

kevin coe did not do his time. he served time for one rape not because of lack of evidence but due to mistakes that were made during the first trial. the state does not have the time, money, or manpower to watch him constantly and i do not believe that a sexual pradator like coe could ever be truly rehabilitated. some people are just bad and he is one of them

If anyone out ther really believe that a rapiest has paid his dept to society they should spend one day with a person who has been raped. You never get over the rape no matter how much therapy you have or how positive you are. It is always with you. A person who rapes has a choice but the person raped does not. Kevin Coe was convicted for the rape of one person and that is the sentence he got. He needs to spend 25 years for each of the women who's choice he took away. Don't let this rapist go free. He will probably not come back to spokane if he is let free but he will go someplace else and I am sure that wherever he goes they will not have the manpower to watch him all the time. Don't kid yourself that he will not rape again. Are you willing to take that chance. Again Please do let him out.

I remember Coe blowing the south hill 'complacency' right out the window. I was 10 the year I started looking over my shoulder, for a bad man... Thanks Ruth, we owe ya lots of thanks. Go ahead let him out, I'm sure Spokane will welcome him, along with all the other sex-offenders that get dumped on us here. Oh yeah, write your congresspeople, people! God Bless and Look out for each other, Spokane!

I don't know why anyone is surprised when a rapist or child molester is freed, even though there is little hope either type of predator to be rehabilitated. After all, no one does anything to change the laws to sentence them to life in prison without parole. That's the sentence they should get until someone can find a way to successfully rehabilitate them.
Instead of complaining about the leniency of the laws, why not contact your legislature and get the laws changed? All's it takes is enough people to call, write, or e-mail their legislator to change the law.

This guy won't last a day in free society. There are husbands, fathers, uncles, friends, sons and brothers who will make sure of that.

I wasn't HIS victim but if he is free, we will all feel like victims again, no matter who our attackers were.

The scars of rape never, ever heal. Kevin Coe won't be allowed to rip open our wounds that have been healing for the past 25 years.

Someone tried to slash his throat in prison. Wait until he sees the outside world.

I'm looking for "thinkers", not "reactionaries". I have substantial and excellent reasons to believe that Kevin Coe was NOT the only rapist in our community during those terrible years. Someone else was out there. The someone I have in mind looked like Kevin, also lived on the south hill, and has since been convicted of murdering a woman. Think about it, the rapes ceased after Kevin was convicted, but the kidnappings of women only escalated. The teacher in Coeur d'Alene? The nurse from Deaconness hospital? Julie Weflen? Etc., etc. Someone who took the opportunity to stop his own rapes and escalate to kidnapping and murder??

I'm on of the girls he felt up while walking to SCC one morning. Never let this predator out of his cage. I shake every time I think of how much worse it could have been if he had gotten me alone in a more isolated setting. I know he is guilty of all the rapes he did and he should never never be let out.

I was raped in Oct 2001 in quaint little Deer Park, WA. I looked over my shoulder for a year after the rape and finally moved away. This is something you never get over and never forget. Do not let this man out of prison! Even if he doesn't return to Spokane, you can't in good conscience set him free. I will never be convinced that this arrogant SOB will never rape again.

When I was at EWU in the Criminal Justice program we studied Kevin Coe, and we had to read the book "SON" I was shocked when I read in the news about Kevin being released from Walla Walla? Our Justice System is very messed up, and I feel so sorry for the women and their families the fear that they must have over this. I am very lucky to have not been a rape victim, but after getting a degree in Criminal Justice I have come to know the worst part of society, and Kevin will strike again and again, and this time he may even become more aggressive and slick. He has had many years to think about "WHY HE GOT CAUGHT THE FIRST TIME" He will not make the same mistakes again. If he is released the only thing that the society of Spokane or another town he may wonder into, is the fact that someone will take justice into their own hands and kill the bastard. He will always be a rapist, and that cannot change in 25 years uin prison. If anything he has had a lot of time to plan in his sick mind how not to get caught the next time and believe me he will rape again, but this time may not be caught. He will blame the city of Spokane and all of his victims for the death of his mother and father also, so everyone from the DA to the Judge had better make sure they have a loaded gun because he will come after all of you, because he is a Psyco. GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!!!!! We can only pray that if he is released someone will knock him off the minute he walks free from Walla Walla.

I LIVED IN SPOKANE WHEN COE WAS RAPING ALL THOSE WOMEN; I WAS 10 YRS OLD. I LIVED ON THE SOUTH HILL, BUT REMAINED VERY CAUTIOUS OF MY SURROUNDINGS UNTIL HE WAS CAUGHT. HE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE RELEASED; BECAUSE HE MAY COME OUT SEEKING REVENGE FOR DOING TIME FOR A CRIME HE COMMITTED. NOW WOULDN'T THAT BE SICK?

Go ahead; release him. Then, in days, weeks, maybe months... when someone's children are kidnapped, raped, and murdered, don't act surprised. Why do I angle this towards children? Because he's a sexual predator. Do you think he's gotten less smart in the last 25 years? Fear for your children; they are his logical choice of new targets.

There needs to be a civil commitment and Spokane County must do that. Spokane County feels they do not have enough to commit him. We must all put pressure on the County to make them do a civil commitment. No one will be safe especially if they are small brunette women his victim of choice.

My name is Sarah and I am 14, and I have never lived in spokane nor have I ever been raped, but I have come very close to being raped, my cousin is behind bars, he is a rapist, notice how I don't say was, I say is because I know if released he will strike again, and again, and again. It is an illness that can not be cured. If you want proof look at some released "former rapists" (and I am using former very litely), and tell me how many haven't struck again, now give me proof that they havn't. You can't can you?

I understand why people are against Kevin Coe getting out. But everyone concentrates and worries more about the ones they can see. Do they ever stop and think about the ones out there that haven't been caught yet? The ones that haven't yet struck?? People let their kids wander all over and don't seem to care much until they hear about a rapist, child molester on the loose. In today's world, parents need to be vigilant about these everyday, not just when the news exposes some sick person because there are many more out there that we know nothing about yet!

I liked Dianna's comments. How true. And let us not forget that there was most likely someone else out there during the South Hill Rapist years. Reread the book "Son" and note that many of the victims described their attacker as someone in his early 20's with blondish, dirty, long hair. That definitely does not describe Coe who looked like a wannabe GQ cover model. Nobody but Kevin Coe knows exactly what he did, but it's still my bet that he didn't commit all of the violence against women during those years. And why are we so worried about his returning to Spokane? Chances are he won't. Let us be more concerned about what's out there right now instead of screaming for Kevin Coe to stay away.

I have never been raped but I lived in Spokane in the early 80's. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind letting Kevin Coe out of prison. The only thing he has been missing is the women he couldn't touch anymore. If he gets out women all over Spokane will be afraid all over again.

I went to school with Fred Coe an I still to this day remember how It felt like every piece of clothing went off my back as he passed me on second floor of Lewis and Clark High and I pray that you keep him locked up for life that he can do no harm to another girl or young woman. He is where he needs to be and reflect on the wrongs he committed on thses women. Please do not put him back in society.

Here we go again! I feel for the victims who will also go to his Parole hearing, to try and prevent him from being released. Oh YOU can fight it, and the Parole Board will PRETEND they are listening! But Guess what? Nobody cares in the System! Let him out, The time has come to Let the Vigilantes get him! I don't believe in our Justice system anymore, and anybody who disagrees with me, has NEVER been a victim! As a matter of fact, I would bet that the person who posted the article on Mar,24 at 12:29PM, and was posted as S, works for the system, Or SHOULD! By the way I remember this vividly, I was in my late teens!

I lived in Spokane during "those" years and followed the case and the trial very closely. The Spokane police were under such pressure to find the "South Hill Rapist" that once they got they're hands on Coe, they went to great lengths to claim there was only one rapist committing ALL the rapes and that "they got their man." Prosecutor Donald Brockett, who had a future election at stake, and the Spokane media created such a frenzy that there was no way the man could get a fair trial. THAT'S why 3 of his 4 convictions were overturned. The man has served 25 years for 1 rape conviction. There are many murderers who've served less time.
Don't get me wrong; I'm a woman and a mother of daughters. I'm NOT defending rapists. But I'm saying that the facts of the Coe case have never been delivered accurately to the public--including in the very biased book 'Son.'
And I'm not saying that Coe is innocent. No one knows for certain except Coe himself. But consider this: you've never seen reported in the media that Coe had in recent years requested DNA testing of the rape kits. It couldn't be done because it turns out Spokane Prosecutor Donald Brockett had all the rape kits DESTROYED shortly after the first trial. Why would a prosecutor do something that illegal? In other words, there's a lot more to this case than any of us will ever know.
As Ducks says above, put the energy of your fear and outrage into the horrible crimes and criminals lurking all around you today and stop wasting it on a man who has served more time for 1 rape than most similarly convicted men ever have.

From the majority of the postings I worry that we are on our way to feeling a false sense of security if we can just make Kevin Coe go away, or stay in prison. Jane D. made some good statements. I have known for years that the files on Kevin Coe disappeared a long time ago. Why??? He was convicted of one rape because none of the victims could clearly identify him. And I've asked myself this question many times, "how could Kevin Coe be attending a realtor's meeting at 2:00 in the afternoon (looking sleek and well-dressed), and at 2:20 be raping a victim on Upriver Drive looking 10 years younger, sporting long, stringy, blondish/brown hair?" I have also known that Jack Olson, the author of the book, "Son" was an egomaniac who fabricated a story about a friend of mine after he interviewed her. There was somebody else out there who eventually escalated to killing after he stopped his own rapes in order to help nail Kevin Coe. And, yes, I know what it's like to be a target. This somebody tried to kidnap me. He's serving time for murder now, but he will eventually be released and slip back into our community right under our noses to continue his own activities while we run around screaming for Kevin Coe to stay away.

all i can say that kevin should stay in prison for what he did to the women back in the 80's. my mother went to school with his girlfriend gini parham, and how could she not see what he did to shelly and all of the females that he raped, and for ruth coe, she got what she deserve for having a hit out on donald brockett and also on the judge.
i hope to god that kevin DON'T get out all.

I will not say Kevin Coe is innocent, because I don't know of his scope of activities anymore than any of us out here. But, the raw facts are: he was NEVER clearly identified by a single victim. He confessed to one--the last one. And upon rereading the book "Son", I could clearly see that that particular style of rape was very different from all the previous styles. This one confession resulted in him being pinned for the multitude of vicious rapes that occurred. The authorities just love it when they can close a case as big as the South Hill Rape Case by pinning ALL the crimes on one person. Our community is not a safe community right now--even with Coe in prison. Whether he is in prison or not does not dictate whether our community is a safe one. Seems we're a haven for level three sex offenders right now. I don't want to be an alarmist, I just want to remind us to be vigilant about being aware of what's going on around us at this moment, and stop thinking that all is well as long as Kevin Coe doesn't return.

i read the book seen the movie . my opion on it is he and the cnmmuntiy would have been better served if he did his time in a mental hospital

Never in the history of cinema has a movie accurately depicted a true story. Authors of books write for the purpose of "selling" their story. Remember the story (in the Book Son) about the chubby girl who said she was approached by Kevin Coe one night and started talking dirty back to him? We all thought that was a real hoot. Well, she later recanted that story. Not true. What else did Jack Olson write that wasn't true????? Just because it's written or shown on a screen doesn't mean it's accurate.

I really think you should leave him
alone. 25 years of prison with ALL
charges dropped show's a lack of
maturity with the public eyes of
showing their true prostitional
hooker way's of needing to talk and
or gosep due to their lack of happiness, talent, intellegent and
gratitude of what they have at home.
very sad. If any has talked w/ Kevin
they would know him as a very confident, intellegent man with obviously alot to be jealous of with a self esteem manner of being honest.
leave him be. there are men and their are boy's, Kevin is a man, not using individual's to learn...

I just wanted to pop in and remind everyone of the sexual predator that had spent 20 years in jail for raping a child at gunpoint in Tacoma, only to get out, and not only offend again, but brutally murder 3 people and then kidnap Shasta & Dylan Groene.

I'm not saying that Kevin Coe is Joseph Duncan, but did rehabilitatioin help with Duncan? Do you really think it will help with Coe?

Jaysus H., Ducks...if I didn't know any better I'd swear you were Coe himself! If not, then all your statements in defense of Coe are right out of the trial transcripts. Are you also gonna say that Coe and his mother were after all, just cruising the streets looking for the villanous South Hill Rapist themselves? That WAS his only defense and a pathetic one at that.
Listen up y'all: sexual deviant psychopaths CAN NOT BE REHABILITATED; Coe has refused to go before a parole board JUST SO HE CAN GET OUT WITHOUT BEING MONITORED; if he is set free he will stalk, rape AND murder...and since he always hated Spokane and its citizens...???
Yo, Ducks--you willing to have him over for dinner with all the women you care for in your life??

Lara, I can fully understand your comments. No, I've never met Kevin Coe. My thoughts come from another headset. In 1987 I was almost kidnapped by a young man in the same area and time Julie Weflen was abruptly kidnapped. The scarriest experience I've ever had, so his face was permanently burned into my brain. The cops didn't do anything. A few years later I saw this man's face on the front page of the S/R. He had killed a woman. Same man. Cops still didn't believe I had a close encounter of the deadly kind. So I investigated him myself. Came up with the following facts: he lived on the South Hill during the rapist years. Walking distance to Manito Park. Others believed he had killed before. Had threatened to kill his former landlady. He was a stalker way before he killed the woman. "Probably" kidnapped Julie. Same height as Kevin Coe. Same build. 10 years younger, long, stringy, blondish/brown hair. Pockmarked face. And the most ingriguing fact----was a spitting image of Kevin Coe, just 10 years younger. I'm not so much defending Kevin Coe as I am trying to get this guy investigated further than the cops are/were willing to investigate.

I will not argue the idea that Ruth Coe was not playing with a full deck. I doubt seriously that she and Kevin were out there looking for some other guy. I've said before that ONLY Kevin knows of the full extent of his behavior. He admitted to raping one victim, I do not feel sorry for his time in prison because ANY violence against women should be dealt with as harshly as possible.

I have no feelings about Kevin Coe other than to have a strong sense that he wasn't the only one out there. This man I'm talking about will be released from prison one day and surely come back to Spokane because nobody but I am left to believe he had a part in the rapes, and then escalated to murder. He'll be able to sneak back into our community because I've been unable to alert the cops or the public that it wasn't JUST Kevin Coe committing acts of violence against women. That's why I'm looking for "thinkers", not just mob mentality "reactors."

Ducks,

I'm sorry you were a victim to someone like that, Ducks...and of course, there could have been another offender at the time Coe was stalking and raping, but you really do seem to be trying to make a case for Coe's innocence. Regarding the rapes Coe was charged with (and there were a great deal more than what was ever at trial or even reported), they all fit a distinct MO--Coe's signature...something he was undoubtedly proud of. Eye witness accounts and similar appearances in offenders are lukewarm components----but an offender's M.O. is hot, almost as good as fingerprints.

Coe never admitted to anything--he was finally found guilty on only one initial charge against him because Washington had state supreme court justices who felt the poor guy didn't get a fair shake because of the hypnosis used on some of the victims. It didn't matter that the hypnosis never garnered any new info...and what's so strange is that to this day, such hypnosis is still allowed, *by law*, as it was then...so go figure. As far as I'm concerned Coe may be free soon because the state of Washington seemed more intent oh HIS rights, instead of the victim's rights---if the victims had any at all. Coe got it easy--25 years, and he has worked the system again, knowing that if he refused to go before a parole board (the parole board was the only group that could have said no to any kind of release, because Coe would never admit guilt to anything...because psychopaths have no conscience) then the state would have to release him at the 25 year mark...which is exactly what is happening.

You say you want people to 'think' the Coe case through, instead of 'reacting' to his release. Why? Because the only answer I can come up with is you think he was found guilty of another rapist's work back then. That's why. And you really do not know your info or you would never offer such silliness.

Don't give up on the pervert who attacked you--seeing if someone will listen to your experience...but for God's sake, don't use that awful time to now help set free a truly horrendous monster called Kevin Coe.

Lara, again your comments are well taken and I can see what you're trying to say. However, I don't believe it's silly to think that someone else was out there during those horrible years. Yeah, I do think he was found guilty of "some" of another rapist's work back then. And I do think he did a lot more than he was convicted of doing.

Nothing that I've said or ever will say will contribute to Coe's release or prove his innocence or guilt to any degree. I'm not that important or influential--or, as you stated, informed. Of course he committed other acts. As an example, he couldn't explain why he was caught with those oven mits!

I don't necessarily want to see him released. Any man who committs so much as one rape should stay in prison for life as far as I'm concerned. Let alone someone who did a lot more and won't own up to the crimes.

If this is a definition of a psychopath, then he's where he should be. The comparison to Joseph Duncan's crimes is scarry. If they had kept him in prison several people would still be alive. I have no idea if psychopaths can be rehabilitated. I doubt it very much.

Please understand that it's incredibly hard for me to know that Coe's lookalike was out there too and I desperately want the public to know that.

Ducks,

I not only don't understand the following statement you made, but the *why* behind it:

"Please understand that it's incredibly hard for me to know that Coe's lookalike was out there too and I desperately want the public to know that."

Why is it incredibly hard for you to know Coe's lookalike was out there? I don't get it. Where's the logic in this? I mean, why should you or anyone else care? The supposed lookalike perpetrator is now behind bars--thank God--and so still is Coe. I just don't get what you're so concerned about and why it has anything to do with Coe's case in the first place. It seems illogical to me to ever mesh the two jerks together in anyway...because what purpose does it serve in the long run??

What's my purpose for commenting on the Coe case? What does it all mean in the long run? Because both of these critters will be released one day. Coe sooner than the other critter. What if the rapes and kidnappings and, God forbid, the killings commence. If Coe is in the community, he'll be the automatic suspect (given the postings I've seen here). The other one will slip under the wire while we focus on Coe.

I can see why I've confused people. I expected as much. I can't name the person. I can't give dates. I can't give the pertinent information that would make everyone say "aha, I see where she's coming from."

I have a question--not a challenge, but a question. You spoke of the "MO factor." "As good as a fingerprint factor." During the rapist years I saw several styles of approach. One style was the jogger who wore sweatpants and a hooded sweatshirt. His style was to jog up to a victim, grab, drag and rape. The "opportunity" factor. The other style I saw was the "stalker" pattern. The man who would hide in the shrubs in a park, or lurk behind a tree. This attacker would pop out, grab and attack. Another style was to follow the victim after she exited a bus, follow, grab and attack.

Would you lump these different styles under the same "MO?" Same fingerprint? What's your version of the commonality of Coe's "MO." On the surface, I see a difference between opportunity and pure stalking.

The stalking activity didn't stop after Coe went to prison. Several women have been abruptly kidnapped in our area and have never been found. Julie Weflen, the nurse from Deaconness Hospital, the teacher from Coeur d'Alene. (To name a few). Rebecca West's body has never been found.

The summer Julie Weflen disappeared there was a stalker in the woods (1987). Not only was I approached by a pervert who wanted me to go play in an old abandoned cabin in the woods, but I found a woman who was also stalked in the same area that summer. She and her girlfriends would ride their horses on the trails when a man would suddenly pop out from behind a tree or a shrub and try to talk to them. No matter which trail they took, he'd pop out at them. Their description of this pervert matched mine. Not too many people know that the woods were not safe that summer, and poor Julie was the prize.

In my research I ran across an article in the S/R stating that a week before Niki Woods and Rebecca West were kidnapped, a series of grab and rapes were taking place in Spokane's south hill parks and Riverfront Park. Two men would hide in the bushes and grab and rape. Michael Tarbert pleaded "no contest" to these kidnappings, even offered to help the cops locate Rebecca West's body. Does that make any sense? If I had kidnapped and killed some little girl I'd for sure know where I buried the body!

My research indicated that the guy I have in mind liked to "pair up" with other perverts.

FYI, here's a heads-up. I can't be Kevin Coe himself as you once indicated because inmates are not allowed access to the internet.

So, let's bottom-line it. Just why am I here ticking everyone off if both of these guys are in prison? Because I'm worried about the future. One is going to be closely monitored, the other is going to slip under the wire. And perhaps, just perhaps I'm using this forum to let detectives and the S/R know that "I'm heeere." I won't go away until all the facts are sorted out as to who did what.

You said:

"During the rapist years I saw several styles of approach. One style was the jogger who wore sweatpants and a hooded sweatshirt. His style was to jog up to a victim, grab, drag and rape. The "opportunity" factor. The other style I saw was the "stalker" pattern. The man who would hide in the shrubs in a park, or lurk behind a tree. This attacker would pop out, grab and attack. Another style was to follow the victim after she exited a bus, follow, grab and attack.
Would you lump these different styles under the same "MO?" Same fingerprint? What's your version of the commonality of Coe's "MO." On the surface, I see a difference between opportunity and pure stalking."

Good Lord---if you don't see strong similarities there, when it comes to distinguishing Mo's, then you need to read some more of your true crime novels, Ducks. Crime/rape of opportunity usually involves a spur-of-the-momment crime with no stalking, no planning, no carefully picking out and observing a victim prior to the attack. The three examples you give are very much related...and when Coe was appearing to be a happy jogger he was planning, observing: *stalking*. He picked out, stalked and raped in most cases. The other and different M.O.'s of other offenders are very different. And besides, the good hallmarks of an offernder's M.O. involve much more than what you listed.

You said:

"The stalking activity didn't stop after Coe went to prison. Several women have been abruptly kidnapped in our area and have never been found. Julie Weflen, the nurse from Deaconness Hospital, the teacher from Coeur d'Alene. (To name a few). Rebecca West's body has never been found."

Earth to Ducks! Earth to Ducks! Crime against women happens everywhere and never seems to take a holiday. You are shocked and appalled and maybe even thinking the true South Hill Rapist has still been 'out there' all along because there have been crimes committed since 1981??? You can't be serious!

You said:

"My research indicated that the guy I have in mind liked to "pair up" with other perverts."

Where did your research come from, Ducks?

"FYI, here's a heads-up. I can't be Kevin Coe himself as you once indicated because inmates are not allowed access to the internet."

Well you have certainly become involved in all this, haven't you? Did you at one time hope to email with Coe? Very interesting. Did you ever correspond with him in any other way?

You said:

"So, let's bottom-line it. Just why am I here ticking everyone off if both of these guys are in prison? Because I'm worried about the future."

And as long as you live like this you have made for yourself your own kind of prison.

"One is going to be closely monitored, the other is going to slip under the wire."

Which one is going to be closely monitored, Ducks? Not Coe. You need to do more 'research'.

"And perhaps, just perhaps I'm using this forum to let detectives and the S/R know that "I'm heeere." I won't go away until all the facts are sorted out as to who did what."

Ya know something, Ducks? I don't believe you. I think you have another agenda...and I think you have entirely too much time on your hands. Instead of choosing a life of happiness, you've taken the path of **Victim**. You are by no means the only victim to crime, Ducks. But for some reason you want everyone to know you were one. Perhaps that's the *why* you should be addressing, instead of pretending you're on a crusade of self sacrifice.

You're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong. Let's just let the chips fall where they may and you can get on with your life of telling off other people.

Ducks,
Why can't you name the person, give dates or give the pertinent information that would make us all go "aha, I see where she's coming from"????

I don't know, but I would like to think if I had come as close to being one of his victims as you seemed to have come, I would be screaming all the pertinent information I had from the mountain tops!?!?

Seems to me a good citizen should try to convince detectives first before she/he screams it from the mountaintops. Detectives have all my information. If they can't do anything, it wouldn't be safe nor smart for me to shout this guy's name all over creation. At the very least he could sue me for slander.

I fully realize I could be wrong. In this discussion I was looking for someone who would discuss the possibility that someone else could have been out there and then escalated to other stuff. I crawl out of the woodwork every 5 years or so looking for some reasonable person to discuss this with. I'm not consumed by it, nor do I live, eat, or breathe it in daily.

I do not believe that the S/R set this site up for two cats to spit and claw at one another. I opened myself up to your anger, but I will not respond with like anger.

The citizens of Spokane are traumatized at the thought of Coe returning. I don't blame them one bit. (However, I don't believe he would come back to this community that wants to hang him). I have a different story to tell and that's partially why this site was set up. I put my stuff out there and in a way it was my last ditch effort to shout it from the mountaintops without placing myself in danger of a future slander suit or (if this guy gets out soon), very real danger if he has caught onto what I've been trying to do.

I talked in depth once to an ex-Sheriff of a nearby county and he agreed that if he were investigating cases he'd give this top priority. He said that the information that I gathered about this guy fits the profile of a serial killer who started small and escalated.

So, it was my fault for opening myself up. If I couldn't name the person, then presented an alternative opinion about the Coe case without being able to make things come together, I shouldn't have entered this discussion at all. So much for shouting it from the mountaintops. People aren't going to believe this scenario anyway. Wasted time.

There is only one thing I can do. Wait. If this guy is released, comes back to our community, kills again and is convicted, then and only then will I be able to show Spokane that I tried to prevent it and failed.

Guess it's time to crawl back into the woodwork for a few more years, go on living a happy, fulfilled life, and crawl back out if an opportunity presents itself.

I just realized that I responded mostly to Lara, didn't see that the previous message was from someone else.

I'm dismayed that some posters are giving Ducks a hard time; it is quite obvious to me that she has no ulterior motives other than those she has stated. I quite agree with her feelings and I applaud her actions in keeping track of her attacker, especially since law enforcement has apparently dropped the ball.

I too am a survivor of a violent crime, and I've read many books about the psychology of serial killers & other violent offenders. Ducks, if you care to contact me thru myspace, I'd very much like to know your attacker's name, or just to hear from you if you'd like. Take care and stay strong, lady!

For those who are interested, the story of my brush with death can be found at morellapoe.com/attack.txt ~

Yours in dreams of darkness,

Morella

http://proofwriter.com/

this is for geneva! if you was 4 or 5 when kevin coe supposed to of raped all of them women! whats that got to do with anything dont believe whats in books or films because that dick head who wrote the book son lied about half of the stuff he put in it he didnt speak to kevins family any way!most of the people who he did get infomation off for the book recanted what they told him!before it went to the publishers but he still left the information in you dont know him you dont know his family so dont judge him hes been in jail for 25 years for christ sake give the guy a break unless youve walked a mile in his shoes no one can say nothing to him only one person will ever judge you no matter what you do and thats the all mighty up above.

carolyn miller
woman get a grip of your self your living in the past and not in the present!

diana
i like your point!your about the only person on here that looks at everythig from two points of view

jane d
i also like what you say as well theres a lot of facts to this case that the prosecution the jury the public and judge convicted him on but it was all circumstantial and thats wrong he didnt get a fair trial not in my case any way a lot of the evidance was fabricated i dont know how and why the people would convict someone like that.thats why the american justice system is so un just to inocent people or the wronged 25 years for i rape thats discusting thats to long of a sentence murderers get less that that so wheres the justice poor kevin should be let out while hes still young enough to start a fresh hes served his time its wrong to give him more time.

patrica
if you was raped 30 years ago thats not kevin coes fault thats on you!obviously if you feel like youde be raped all over again if kevin was let out youve keapt things bottled up and not dealt with them i suggest you go and get some counselling and deal with your own problems after 30 years and still feeling like this its sad and pathetic it would be funny if it wasnt so sad your living in the past wallowing in self pitty come in to the real world and deal with things in the fucture.

varine
well well well what can i say i can just imagine you!i bet your one of them fat girls sat there with thick rimmed perscription glases full of spots get a life stop jumping on the band waggon now kevin is due to be released its sad and pathetic i bet you dreamed of kevin didnt you asking you out but you was gutted when he didnt ask you out so your makeing all this up.

ducks
did you know kevin?or someone close to him?its like your getting first hand infomation!are you his sister on another sight people have said that hes got a sister?i dont know weather thats true i dont know him personally i just think hes been wronged

lara,
who the hell do you think you are slagging ducks off shes about the only one on here who got any brain cells your 1 and only brain cell i bet is very lonely in your very extreamly empty head - pretending shes on a crusade of self sacrafice says you!your just like the rest of the no hopers and dead legs on here to ready to condem a poor inocent man whos been in jail for the wrong reason any way stop jumping on the band waggon with every body else on here you dont know kev. there was to many holes in this case to allow kev to get a fair trial.

Ducks: Sorry that Laura gave you such a bad time. I have always wondered about the accuracy of the Coe conviction as I knew a really sick man who resembled Coe in features, build & height a great deal. He also lived on the South Hill and jogged on the South Hill, during this same time. He hated women, but he really liked little boys.

It's too bad the evidence was destroyed. With the accuracy of the DNA testing today, it could be proven one way or the other, and then we would all know the truth.

Coral

People......

I wonder how old most of you were when Kevin Coe was out on the street... I was 28... I remember the fear that a constant in the area.. I remember how women and men were afraid of either a possible rape or the postibility of being accused of such a crime... I remember a group of women who went out into the night and posted a broken womens symbol near every reported rape for that year... I remember the arrest of Kevin Coe and then of his mother... were you there to watch his arrogant behavior and that of his mother? You can look back and say all kinds of things now about what is right or wrong... but unless you were living as a young women in 1980-82 you have no idea the climate of a communituy under seige. Kevin Coe is a slick and devious criminal and should not be allowed out into the public. I ask you how mant criminals who are sexual preditors really are reabilitated, and how many of them including Kevin Coe admit what they have done? To let him out would be like letting out a time bomb....

Changeing his name won't help... Right Fred?... Im afraid Im connected to this case in some way. He was picked up on Grand with MOMMEY dearest. And got a ticket from My Counsin.. To get even with My Counsin(A Police Officer).. He spent Time makeing phone Calls to My MOM. Who Happens to have the same name...Gee fred since you were Locked up, mom didn't get those phone calls any more.
A lot has Happened since those days. The cousin is retired and MOM is Gone.
Come on back to Spokane Fred. Chances
are you will get a 75 cent bullit in you head and spokane will be a better place for it..

MYM

I'm heartened by the various responses from posters. Thanks so much for your understanding. First off, I am not related to Kevin Coe. I've thought of trying to contact his sister with the information I have, but, at the same time I'm a little hesitant to open Pandora's Box.

Please don't sweat Lara. She needs to get a life. Seems her agenda is to sit at a computer all day and tell off strangers.

To the person who wanted me to contact personally, I will give it a try. OK? I dropped this blog for a while because Lara was building up a head of steam and it was not my intention to take over the entire blog and have a personal fight with some stranger who clearly wasn't getting my point.

I need to clear up something. I wasn't attacked. This stranger stood in front of me while I was on a horse. I took the aggressive position and threatened to run over him if he didn't get the he__ out of my way. So, I'm not an actual victim, acting like a victim (as Lara suggested). I'm just pissed off that the pervert actually tried to get me. His approach scared the devil out of me. I knew it was a lure, and when I saw his picture in the paper a few years later (after confessing to a brutal murder), I got pissed off all over again.

If this guy didn't look like Kevin Coe's younger brother, if he hadn't lived on the South Hill at the time of the rapes, and if he wasn't the same height as Coe, I wouldn't be writing this message.

Again, I appreciate the open-minded people who have come forth. And Lara, please don't bother to respond to this--you're nothing to me.

Ducks,,, You won't get anywhere with the sister.. She moved to Calif and changed her name... More than likely that is where he will end up... go hang with the liberal movie stats..
Chuckle...
Everyone should relax. He won't come here... We know who he is. Everyone will watch...
Just remember... Anyone can be a rapist. So watch, be safe , and don't trust just anyone with you kids.
And Drag a PITBULL with you when you run...
That works....

mym

concerned
well well well lol the only reason why i may of made a few spelling mistakes is because i write very fast on here thats all my friend so please dont try to be physcious because your not iam very educated actually!do you know kev? i never said the issue here was my point of view if youve read anything ive written!everybodys got a point of view and iam right so thats all that matters ok!the issue here isnt about what the people of spokan think thats bull there was more than one person attacking women not just kevin supposidly!what on earth gives you the impression that me and ducks are members of the kevin coe fan club lol?you mentioned about the mysterious man which was stood on the grassy knoll have you read everything on here?if you had youll all ready know that ducks has all ready anwsered that more than once!and its not only ducks that has mentioned another man that looks like kev so get you facts straight before you comment.if ducks wants to tell you the guys name thats up to her not me you wanted us both to name and shame i cant i wasnt even born!and as for us both being sick and twisted waiting for peoples reactions on here i dont give two fu... and i really mean that how would you like it if you was blammed for something you hadnt done ask your self that? have you seen any transcripts from the court case?if you have you wouldnt have an attitude and responded like you have!poor kevin didnt get a fair trial and with people like you he probably never will kevs been made a political prisoner and thats wrong.at the second trial he should of been let go for the simple reason of the rape kits!thats not right the prosecution have dropped a boll... how is anything suppose to be tested when they through it all away?the case should of been through out of court.spokan residents have got no reason to keep him in prison hes served his time let him go its not fair for residents of a community to give an innocent man extra prison time on something which supposed to have happened 25+ years ago hes been in prison since he was a young man he deserves a second chance everybody does no matter what they do hes not even the same man as he was.

Thanks for the info on his sister, Mary. That takes a lot off my mind.

Dragging around my Chesapeake Bay Retriever works for me. That's a good idea to take a protective dog with you. It probably still isn't completely safe to jog alone.

The chips are going to have to fall where they may on Kevin Coe. I neither believe, nor disbelieve him. There's still way too many questions. I do believe that Spokane has been a host to MANY rapists over the years. But that's true of any city our size. And I still believe it was all too easy to pin the rapes on one man. As I've said before, sure they stopped after Coe was sent to prison, but the Dungeons & Dragons player I have in mind would know enough to stop his own activities.

It frustrates me to read that Donald Brockett "inadvertently" gave instructions to destroy all samples taken from victims. How does one "inadvertently" give instructions???

Dave Reichert of the King County Sheriff's Department had the foresight to have Gary Ridgeway chomp down on a piece of guaze in 1987 when the Green River Killings were still in the unsolved category. That piece of guaze nailed Ridgeway when DNA testing improved in 2001. He clearly and sincerely wanted to solve the GR case. Is the opposite true regarding Brockett's actions? Clearly wanting to destroy anything that could come back and haunt the Sheriff's Department if Coe's DNA didn't match the samples taken from the victims? If Brockett was so sure it was Coe, why not save the evidence and wait for something to come along (later called DNA) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was the attacker? He should be horsewhipped for that decision.

mym
how do you know that ducks woant get any where with kevs sister?

ducks
i take it your on here now?if youve got info on kevs sister why dont you write if you know of her adress and new name!just do it man open pandoras box as you put it, it cant do no harm can it!things are more easier to write if shes any deasent human being shell know if your writing from the heart just let her know that her and kevs got your support and your thinking of them if she chooses to not write back them youll know youve tried my friend.

Duck... DNA would have helped. But the one who nail his term was a 50 yr old women who was Raped at Hart Field and she had to walk home with no clothes.
Thats what you get for pissing of a 50yr women... Prison... She ID him. As for other Rapest.This is Spokane .
We were are very small town then. 9we still are in some ways(what the city hall meetings on Monday night)...
Fred AKA Kevin was the guy.. Just like Yates was...
His dad was a nice guy... but that mom
well enough said...

mym

concerned
like ive said before in the last message what i written i really dont give to hooks about what any body says youve got your point of view and thats fine its ok iam not hear to change yours or any body elses point of view youve made your mind up and thats that! your wrong about what you said tho when have i blasfymed? i might of used other words and blanked half of the word out so people know what iam saying but thats about it!iam not the only one on here thats used nauty words!just because a person uses bad language dosent mean that iam not a good scholar as you so kindly put it.and another thing you so kindly for got to call me and ducks a moron lol your slipping!have you read anything at all on here?like ive said before ducks isnt the only one on here thats mentioned about another man please pay attention did you go to special ed classes at school or what? youve not got a very good attention span have you?i bet you was one of them dorks that had to go to summer school and band camp lmas lol and my and ducks constant spewing of nonsence whys it nonsence?explain if you can!why is ducks makeing up a story like that?obviously you dont know all the facts about the case!he was well and truly stitched up a level 3 offender i want to pee my self laughing i dont know why hes been branded like that when hes been convicted of one rape!youve got to be a serial rapist to be stuck with the label of a level 3 offender!no one can prove beyond a reasonable boubt that kev done what hes supposed to of done!none of the women could identify him!so there.thats why the convictions was over turned because the police put the women under hypnosis wheres the justice in that thats against the law to use hypnosis. if you cant give a statement to the police and tell them where when and what happened and pick them out of a line up it dosent really say much does it about being raped.and why does coe a strapping nice good looking young man need to cook!a 50 year old wrinkly old woman!like ive said before iam not twisted and sick and i doubt that ducks is your the one on here to get a reaction out of me and ducks!and another thing you say that iam a messed up idol! what you talking about ive never been on american idol!and if you want to sit at the pc all day and night waiting foy mine and ducks reply thats up to you, surly you must have something productive to do?i havent got nothing to hind you have put your real name and adress on here then if youve got the halls!instead of a stupid name like concerned!

Dear Lynn Croden,

Since you said the following:

"if you cant give a statement to the police and tell them where when and what happened and pick them out of a line up it dosent really say much does it about being raped.and why does coe a strapping nice good looking young man need to cook!a 50 year old wrinkly old woman!

I am going to assume you are either a very spoiled, bored-to-tears 12 year old brat with lots of toys but not much love from Mommy....or you are a sicko idiot who never got beyond the 5th grade and probably spends hours at porn sites to fend off those nagging homosexual tendencies.

By the way...aren't you living in England? What do you know about a 25 year old rape case in the state of Washington in the USA anyway?

sam,
lol where do i begin let me just clear something up!i was very spoiled as a child probably just like kev and his sister lol whats wrong with that?but iam no bored 12 year old with lots of toys youde know that if youve read everything ive written on here!i never got beyond the 5th grade well i dont know weather to anwser that because youll only think iam blowing my own trumpet!lol.iam not a sicko idiot and i dont need to spend all day at porn sights to fend off homo tendancys!how can i be a homo iam a woman? yes i do live in england youve got that one right!just because i dont live in spokan dosent mean to say i dont know nothing about the case.i say what i say and thats it and if people dont like it,its tough thats all there is to it.if donald brockett was so sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that kev committed all thos bad bad rapes!he wouldnt have disposed of all of them rape kits end of story and thats a fact theres to many questions in this case thats never been anwsered properly where the prosecutions concerned poor kev never got a fair trial full stop.hes been in prison for 25 years for christ sake what more do the spokan residents want!that 50 year old that picked him out of a line up probably fancied him any way!and obviously if kev came from a well to do family hede of been well known any way!and if that other man what lived in spokan that looked like kevin how does that 50 year old know it was kev coe anwser that?it could of been the other guy.

Lynn, I don't have Kevin Coe's sister's name or address. Oh yes, if I were sitting before her now I'd probably present every bit of evidence to her that I have already sent to detectives. There would be enough stuff for her to present to Kevin and then Pandora's Box would surely be opened. Yet, at a deeper level, I'm afraid that if this guy catches on and is eventually released (because I still can't prove anything beyond the fact that he tried to get me and most likely kidnapped Julie Weflen), he would surely come after me. That's why detectives have blown me off--no proof. All I have is statements from his past aquaintances telling me they thought for years he was a killer and named specific victims. (Ironically, NONE of the people I spoke with who had those suspicions ever reported their thoughts to the police--even after it was obvious they were correct). He had stalked Riverside State Park the summer of 1987, had approached several others--and not one woman reported her encounter(s). Another woman had good reason to suspect he had something to do with Niki Woods and Rebecca West's disappearance in 1991, and never reported her findings. A co-worker had good reason to suspect this man had killed his neighbor, and never reported it. He threatened to kill his female landlord with a baseball bat, and she never reported it. We have to stop hiding our heads in the sand when we see something or experience something, and start reporting it.

It's a real rock and a hardspot situation. I keep close track of his case and will know when he's being released. Hopefully, so will Spokane's "finest."

Regarding the Shelly Monahan case. Kevin said he was in Las Vegas at the time of the attack. I wonder why his defense attorneys didn't perform a "paper trail" to confirm that. Nothing was ever reported about that possibility. That's how William Stevens was cleared by his brother as being a viable Green River Killer suspect. I hope and pray for Shelly's sake that Kevin moves to another state. And I hope and pray that detectives carefully watch my suspect after he's released.

Lynn, don't sweat the people who make fun of your grammer and spelling. I worked in the stock market for years as a secretary and had to correct spelling, sentence structure and overall paragraph content of some brilliant stock brokers. But I would like to advise you, with a very kind heart, to keep your anger in check. It's pretty obvious you feel very passionate about your stand on Kevin's situation. I feel just as passionate about the idea that there was a young Dungeons & Dragons player out there (living next to Manito Park), who started his own campaign of rapes on the South Hill during those horrible years. When a person has an alternative opinion it's not uncommon to be called a moron and other sorted and decrepid names.

Don't get me wrong, folks, I'm not a bleeding heart. I'm a ripping victim's advocate--that's why I won't give up on the guy I have in mind. I'd like to have the chance to tie Joseph Duncan to a rope and drag him a few miles behind my horse (at top speed). That's a clear-cut case. Kevin Coe's case still has too many questions that aren't clear.

who has just posted that comment me want to thanks youll ducks?like iam forign or something and i cant spell stop putting my name to comments on here or ill have who ever it is youll be in serious trouble.

ducks,
iam not venting my anger it just pisses me off when people on here take the piss out of you and me iam trying to stick up for you even tho you dont need me iam sure to stick up for you i cant understand why people are against kevin coe not everything has been presented to the public. were all gods children at the end of the day only he will judge you! jesus christ didnt condem mary magdalyn. ducks after your comment at 11.04 am someone else put a comment on here like i was responding to you someone is obviously pretending to be me its not i can assure you it isnt me.ducks can i ask you something?i just wanted to know did you know kev personally?because in a previous comment you said when we as in you and someone else!thought it was a hoot when you both read the story in the book son about how a fat girl started talking dirty back to kevin it just made me wonder weather you knew him or not its as if you know she wasnt his type! ducks i dont want you to explain anything to me iam not judgeing you or trying to trip you upiam not doubting you in any way and didnt you also say that you had info on kevs sister?if you have you must know where she is then.

ducks,
i did read on another sight that kevin didnt even ask prison officials weather he could go to his mums funeral i dont know how true that is theres that much bull on here you dont know what to believe.

Lynn: again, don't sweat the small minds of small people. And I do appreciate your standing up for my right to post my feelings. I expected much hostility and I wasn't disappointed. People feel very passionate about this subject.

No, I don't know where Kevin's sister lives or her last name. Never met her. And, while I've never met Kevin Coe I had seen him years earlier. I used to hang out at a bar called Albertini's in those days with my girlfriends. It's always been my habit to sit and watch people while I'm partying. Someone pointed out to me that a guy who just came in was Kevin Coe. (This was before the South Hill rapes began). Just another guy. In watching him, I came away with the feeling that he was a real goofy kind of guy. Not the kind of guy I would have been interested in. (Girls check out guys with the same passion that guys check out girls). Thought he was good-looking, but kind of goofy acting. That's all I know of him. Not scarry goofy, just immature goofy.

As far as Ruth Coe goes, I had never met her either. Had seen her at another table while at a downtown restaurant. She was quite the actress. However, I am very familiar with how a mother feels when a son goes to prison. I have a brother who spent about 8 years in a federal prison. Called himself a "political prisoner." A protester in the late 60's and early 70's. Finally got caught carrying a sawed-off shotgun down the streets of New York City. I remember how my mother also went nuts when he was sentenced. She really lost it. And she wasn't an excentric actress to begin with. But she went absolutely nuts. Some mothers get uncontrollably passionate about protecting their sons.

I have a friend who worked in an attorney's office that knew a lot of details surrounding the Coe case. She's the one who told me that author Jack Olsen was a real jerk. My friend was a real pretty young girl and after Olsen interviewed her, he asked her out. She declined on the basis that she was already involved with someone. That was that. When Olsen went back to (California?), several employees of the law firm came up to her and asked, "well, how was he, was he as good in bed as he said he was, did you guys have a good time?" Olsen had told everyone he had nailed her! Liar that he was. Oh yes, she called him and ripped him an a-hole so big a neurosurgeon had to close it. In their interview Olsen told her he was going to write a book so sensational that it would make "In Cold Blood" look lame. Said he was pissed off at Truman Capote for beating him to that story and he was determined to write something even more sensational. She's the one who told me that the woman I spoke of that talked dirty back to Coe later recanted her story. She took back the story before Olsen wrote the book, but he still put it in anyway.

So, Olsen has no credibility in my eyes. You can take the above story to the bank.

I read an earlier post that said we should not judge those convicted so quickly and take it upon ourselves to say whether someone is rehabilitated. If someone had looked further into Joseph Duncan's earlier release, there may be some individuals still living and a young girl who would not be traumatized. His pre-release investigation was completed with some concerns and yet he was still released.

Hey, folks. This isn't a public forum. This is a video journalism blog with comment fields that we reserve the right to edit as we see fit. Personal attacks aren't allowed, nor is posting insults under someone else's name.

Thank you Ken. It seemed to me that this was getting out of hand. I've never blogged before and was surprised at the way people talk to each other when they're just typing messages to a stranger. If anyone would like to calmly discuss the merits of the case for and against Kevin Coe, without the personal insults I'd like to stay with this.

thanks ken and you ducks,
ill try and calm down now as you ve probably guessed iam very apionated sorry for the spelling mistakes!as someone kindly pointed out in a previous message!lol.ducks i dont want you and ken to think iam on here for any other reasons. even if it wasnt kev coe ide still stick up for someone if i thought they was getting wrong treatment like me and you said theres to many holes in this case thats not been anwsered.ide like to see things for my self thatll never happen tho!its not as if i can go and see kev!the way the film has give the portrayed ruth coe its as if she was a very mean mother to kev i dont know kev or ruth as iam from england but theres a part of the film where kev and his girlfriend is stood in frount of his mother and ruth turns round to him and says you should never of been born thats terrible ide like to know if the guy who made the film ever interview kev and his mother ruth and sister and father where did the film makers get information like that thats a terrible thing to say to your baby you should never of been born!thanks once again ducks and ken paulman

Glad to see you're calming down Lynn. LOL! I've found out the hard way that anger turns the focus from the facts and questions of a situation to personal attacks. Then nothing is accomplished.

Lots of mothers have a love/hate relationship with their sons, and that can really screw up the son's emotional growth. I don't know any of the interpersonal relationships of the family other than what the film protrayed. But, like I've said before, NEVER in the history of cinnema has a movie accurately protrayed a situation. Movies are created to sell an idea, a situation. The same goes for novels, fact or fiction. I know Jack Olsen wanted to outdo Capote, wanted to write an even more sensational story. Olsen himself was an egomaniac, so I don't trust the so-called facts in his book. In reading the book, I was searching for indications of what the attacker looked like, his age, his height, etc. Remember the part about the attacker having the appearance of a pockmarked (primply) face at times and at other times it seemed he had a clear complexion? Olsen tried to shove the idea of junk food causing bouts of this affliction-- i.e., eating a bunch of chocolate one day could cause the appearance of acne the following day. Then protrayed Fred as a junk food junkie. Seemed logical at the time. Then the medical community came out with the new theory that this didn't happen to people. A person could eat a hundred chocolate bars one day and not burst forth with the appearance of acne the following day. It just doesn't happen like that. But, what about the diesease known as "Rocacea?" A person afflicted with this knows that this disease comes and goes. Yep, the critter I'm watching (possibly) had this affliction. His co-workers stated that he had a pale, creamy complexion in general, but would show up at work at times sporting rosey cheeks, looking like pockmarks.

There is a book I would highly recommend. It's called "Whoever Fights Monsters" by Robert Ressler. He details how a (typical) serial killer begins, then escalates. He describes organized and disorganized killers. (Most) serial killers start small. They start as peeping toms, then graduate to obscene phonecalls, move onto throwing rocks at girl's windows at night (probably trying to lure them out into the darkness). Then they graduate to rape. Then they escalate to kidnapping and killing. Another thing they all seem to have in common is a dysfunctionall homelife. A love/hate relationship with their mother or father, or both. These are generalities, not every serial killer fits all of these categories, but enough do in order for the FBI to come up with a list of points that they apply to most every situation they're trying to solve. It doesn't always hold true, though. Gary Ridgeway, the confessed Green River Killer matched only a few of the general points as outlined.

I talk about this because some people feel Coe was responsible for several unsolved murders in our community during those years. I don't believe that to be true, but that's just me. However, when I compared my massive notes on my guy to the profile of the GRK, he matched 35 out of the 36 points. What I came up with is someone who matched a serial killer profile only. Obviously not the real GRK. But he absolutely matches a serial killer profile--as generic as they've become. I couldn't match any of the info I knew about Kevin Coe to a serial killer profile anymore than I could match the majority of men in Spokane.

I wish I could have gotten hold of the transcripts of the Coe trial. I'd like to know if the defense attorneys ever proved he was out of town when certain attacks took place. We have never heard about this. I still find it goofy that he and his mother would scour the city, follow the buslines in order to catch the real killer. That part is simply too hard for me to believe. In Ressler's book he talks in depth about people falling into the "abyss." Getting so wrapped up in cases that they too become a criminal. Could that have happened to Kevin Coe? That's a far-out question, just a theory, but that's what we're here for--to throw out different (sometimes obnoxious) ideas. I don't know, just a thought.

One last paragraph. There's a reason why I think differently from the masses. I spent 20 years as a registered Commodity Futures Broker. That occupation teaches you to always expect the unexpected. Never say words like "guarantee, absolutely, the wheat has to go down, etc." As an example, just when you put your clients on the short side of sugar (selling it and hoping to buy it back later at a lower price), a hurricane will hit Hawaii overnight and wipe out the entire crop. You learn to look throughly into all sides of the equation.

So, am I "absolutely sure", can I "guarantee" Kevin Coe isn't the South Hill Rapist? In turn, am I "absolutely sure", can I "guarantee" that m

I see that my last paragraph was cut short. Here's the remainder.

Am I "absolutely sure", can I "guarantee" that my critter is a serial killer who started as a peeping tom, escalated to rape, then went onto kidnapping and murder? Nope. There's no proof I can offer, just a gut feeling. That's why I will never be able to openly tell his name or the circumstances of his "blow-out" murder.

ducks,
i agree with what you say if people just want to shout at each other and call you names and take the mick out of spelling mistakes your not solveing anything for the real subject i really do believe deep in my heart that everybodys got a good and bad side.its so true what you also say when people write books mentioning no names!and make films its to sell them and make a profit at the end of the day!if police want to stitch you up for something they will and once they ve got a hold on you theyll never let you go.ducks i wondered if you know who shelly monohan is ?is she one of the rape victims?on another sight someone said all kev does is sits in front of the tv all day and watches shelly monohan!who is it?i thought if she is a rape victim how can she be on tv!its puzzled me.iam sure if people had everything in frount of them to look at then the residents of spokan would surly change there mind.what ive just found out i dont know how true it is so dont quote me lol!even tho its on another sight that for a year a converted wearhouse has been vacant in spokan with no residents its only big enough for 6 people tho i think some time soon the first rapist is going in to it!hes actually all ready been released but violated his parole!wheres the justice in that!what i can gather hes had numerous chances!and at his parole hearing there was doubts but they still let him go.at this converted wearhouse whats been empty for a year its costing the residents of spokan or the goverment over a milliond dollars to staff the place and nobody is ever lived there. there constantly watched on 24 hr video cameras why dont they put coe there to prove his self and give him a chance then they can always say i told yous so!things that consern kev coe i dont understand why people are against him?theres been people that have done worse things what ive read on different sights for example like rapeing numerous women messing with little kids and theyve only served a short sentence! then theyve got out and done the same things again! so thats what makes me think there punnishing kev for all the other mistakes what the parole board has made.

ducks ,
i think ill write to kev again today and let him know what peolpe think or what there saying!i dont know weather to send the letter to him or to his lawyer because i know how the system works youve got to watch what you say in letters because theyll blank half of it out lol you can just imagine what my letters are like its like a 10 page dialogue lol kevs got more chance of getting the letter of his lawyer than the prison because the system dosent always work!ill give you my e mail if you want to chat?if not its ok iam not a weirdo.

Anyone who writes Fred Coe doesn't have enough to do. Get a job!

AS for Coe... People, he's done his time. Let him out and see what happens. Chances are , he won't make it. They usually don't..

mym

Re, Shelly Monanan. She was a very popular disc jockey for a popular radio station at the time she was brutally attacked. It is said that Kevin Coe expressed great interest in her as he had held the same occupation at one time. She is now an anchorperson on a local TV station. Still very popular and loved by all. The brutality of her attack is sickening and is still very frightened at the thought of Coe returning to Spokane. She believes with all her heart that Coe was her attacker as her attacker told her he was once in the business. She also received a threatening phonecall from the prison Kevin was sent to after he was convicted. She has a right to be tremendously scared to this day. I feel for her in the deepest sense of the word.

I know nothing of the warehouse you mentioned. I do know that Spokane is a haven for Level III sex offenders and we as a community are not happy about that.

Someone did post the idea that Kevin Coe watches Shelly every day as she broadcasts. He, in turn, says that Walla Walla (Washington) does not get the TV station she broadcasts from, so it would be impossible for him to watch her.

The only person I've ever communicated with in prison was my brother and yes, their letters are scrutinized with a fine tooth comb.

I'm very curious as how you know about this case. Did you once live in Spokane? I was a single person when these rapes were taking place and I too was scared to death. Living alone, I carried a gun, could shoot the ring out of a bowling pin with a pistol from a good distance. Still can. This was a very traumatizing event in our sleepy community. And people are still traumatized, therefore, they are still very angry. There seems to be no justice when it comes to our sentencing codes. The man I am keeping track of received 25 years for a brutal murder. Others receive 5 to 25 years for smoking a joint. I once knew a man who had 5 DUI's in the state of Washington and 3 in the State of Idaho. Never spent more than one night in jail.

I don't know how you would give me your e-mail without inviting others to privately trash you. Any idea about how to go about it? I am keeping my own e-mail a secret as I am my real name.

The theory that another person (or two) committed some of these horrible rapes just doesn't set well in our community.

Mary, you're right. Chances are that Kevin Coe will not make it or even survive on the outside are great. Not just in this community, but any community he joins. Where does one get a job with his reputation? What would it be like to try to survive in a world littered with our own criminal minds? Just because someone has been convicted of a horrible crime doesn't mean he's the only criminal. We as a society demonstrate our own criminal minds by wanting someone else to "get him." It's not uncommon for us to want a sex offender sent to prison in order to have the criminal population "take care of him." We hate the criminal population, but applaude their vicious behavior when they do our dirty work.

I would like to slap each person upside the head who didn't report their encounters with the person I have in mind. As it turns out I was the only one who reported an incident although others experienced the same incident(s). We're a screwed up society who won't report horrid encounters, but in turn want others to "take care of the criminal."

Regarding the idea that Kevin won't make it in society. That's really up for grabs. OJ Simpson is still golfing, roaming free and being asked for autographs. Phew, I simply don't understand the way we think sometimes.

mary,
i think your extreamly rude i need to get a job do i!if ive got time to write to kev coe!how do you know i havent got a job?ive got 2 jobs actually so dont be so cheaky.why dont you give poor kev a break and i live on my own i dont need no man to pay my bills or take care of me.people are so mean and nasty to kev he deserves a second chance theres a lot worse people out there than kev,theres been a lot worse than kev thatve had parole and theyve recomitted as well.it seems to me because the parole board have dropped a clanger in the past kevs paying for it!there must be a deasent person out there that would give him a job once he comes out (wouldnt that be sorted out for him?)before he comes out?perhaps he could go back to real estate! or something else!ive got nothing else to say to you about kev get all the facts about the case then comment!

ducks,
i only mentioned that about me chatting with you because someone else did and you said youde give it a try!(only so we could chat indeph about kev and other stuff if you wanted? thats all)iam not a weirdo or anything like that!it seems to me that the people of spokane are concentrating on kev and they really should be concentrating on all the other weirdos that lived in the community thatve had 1 and 2 chances and violated there parole, so now kev is paying for all there mistakes.and you said about the shelly case i knew that you cant get the channel at walla walla whats shes on thats angered me! why would people put stuff on here when they know kev cant even watch her?and arnt phone calls monitered at prison?so how could it of been kev?theres a lot of prisoners at walla walla where kev is who lived in spokane what muredered lots of women!how does shelly know that the phone calls wasnt off one of them?or off the guy that looked like kev coe?you also said something else ducks did i ever live in spokan lol how could i back in the day?you must of read what i said to that other person what posted that comment that was being abusive to me and you!youve even said it your self there to many questions that havent been anwsered!

So Lynn, You don't need a man.huh? Niether did my mom. She was a widow at 48 when Fred aka Kev started calling. It was a little un-nerveing
getting those Phone Calls between 10:00am thru 2:00.(she worked swing shift at a local hospital) Remember , there was no caller ID in those days. Scared her so bad, she lived with us for 8 yrs. Until she felt safe. You see, Fred aka Kev(as you call him).. Liked middle age short, brunett women.(like mommy)
He raped one just around the corner from MOM's House. So when Fred aka Kev gets out. While don't you invite him over for some dinner.. Do you have a OVENMIT he can borrow. I hear he like those to....there pretty handy if you want to scream...(If your lucky this time)

mym

Lynn, yes I would e-mail you personally. Guess you're going to have to post it, but don't be surprised if others take the opportunity to trash you beyond belief. I don't believe you're a weirdo, I do believe you're very passionate about your feelings.

Mary, did Kevin Coe identify himself when you say he called your mother? You say (correctly) that there was no caller i.d. in those days, so he must have identified himself for you to accurately state it was him.

Believe me, I would rather you say that he called and said "this is Kevin Coe" than to say, "gee, it must have been him, isn't he the South Hill Rapist?"

Didn't we just get a reminder that personal attacks were off limits?

mary,
i might be blonde but iam not daft obviously there wasnt caller id years ago! how does your mum know it was kev who made them phone calls like ducks said did the person say oh dear my name is kevin coe?any body can make phone calls and put someone elses name to it!your all concentrating on poor kev to much what i can gather spokane was full of weirdos and rapists and kev is paying the price and thats that! spokane residents cant blame kev for every thing thats gone on in the past or fucture iam off to work now mary ( seeing you so kindly put it i havent got a job lol).

hello ducks,
i dont think it would be impossible for someone to make phone calls before coe was arrested!not if his looka like had it in for him!the past few days ive got a lot of information on a few men that committed murders and rapes on women and teenagers in spokane! when kevin coe supposed to have done what he done!theres 2 what stands out but 1 of them jesus is bad the police got him for numerous murders i think may be 3 or 4 on women they let him of if he pleaded to 2 in spokane!he ple bargained and thay let him make a deal!thats discusting no wonder kevin coes getting blamed for stuff all them famalies what didnt get justice for there sisters,or daughters, its terrible no wonder kevs got such negative press all them famalies probably think its him. ducks you wouldnt happen to know who kevs lawyers are do you?i hope you dont mind me asking.

Ducks, Im not attacking her. But you have to admit some of her comment s are LAME(no pun)... Look, Coe didn't just pick mom out. He thought he was calling my cousin. (Same name).. I can't share everything with you. But I did have insider information. They now call it stalking. Coe was stalking my cousin. Remember, my cousin was the one who gave him a speeding ticket. ( Its in the Book)..
As for weither he had Small Hands. Could not tell you. But you know what they say about men with small Hands..
Or was that feet. Hmmm.. Maybe that was what his real problem was...

Thanks for your explanation, Mary, it's making more sense now. I simply have to get another copy of the book and continue to dissect it. I understand your not being able to share the complete information--completely understand.

I don't know about the small-hands, small feet comparison, but this I know, a man with a big mouth (braggart) was usually the biggest disappointment.

Mary, my latest comment was put "before" the previous comment. You have to scroll up to read it.

Lynn, I don't know who is Kevin Coe's lawyer at this time. I only know the names of the defense attorneys who represented him at his trial here in Spokane. One of them is dead, the other still practices here in our community. Are the murders you're referring to ones that were committed during the early 1980's? I don't recall anyone being convicted of two or three at a time. I'm a little confused about that.

I'm going to try to explain again that I'm "all over the board" on the Kevin Coe case. I'm positive that my guy committed many rapes and possibly many murders before he was caught. I have, however, found it next to impossible to prove or find any evidence of any viable proof that he committed any crimes during the South Hill Rapist years. It's only a gut feeling I'm going on because everything about his profile fits a serial rapist/killer who began years before he was convicted. The fact that he looked like Kevin Coe (only 10 years younger), lived in the vicinity of where the rapes started, and, ironically was in his pre-teens when he and his family moved to Spokane, intrigues me. This youngster would have known the bus routes because he was too young to drive until about 1977 or 1978. But, I still consider it tremendously odd that Kevin Coe and his mother would have followed the bus routes in order to "catch the rapist." That's a big part about his case that simply doesn't make sense to me. That's over-the-top odd behavior.

Again, my guy is definitely a horrendous, vicious killer. Just where and how he started remains a mystery.

Judge Judy is famous for saying "if it doesn't make sense, it's not true." That's why I asked Mary if Kevin Coe identified himself to her mother. It doesn't make sense that an obscene phonecaller would identify himself. If these calls came before Coe was arrested and convicted, it would have been impossible for someone else to call and identify himself as Kevin Coe.

Does anyone out there know whether Coe has small hands for a man of his height and body structure? Several victims stated that their attacker had small hands for a man of 6'. Yes, the critter I have in mind has small, feminine hands for a man of his height (6').

ducks,
thanks for getting back to me about the lawyer thing you dont have to keep explaining things to me you know what people are like on here tho!like you said the other day kevin coe and oj enough said i rest my case!iam not so sure about the small hands thing ill let you know!

Mary, I know you can't give details about why you and your family thought it was Kevin Coe who called your mother, thinking it was your cousin. The only thing I can think of is that a tracer was put on the line at the time. I cannot think of how else they would have come out with the caller being Kevin Coe.

Lynn, I totally understand your passion. I am a passionate person too and once I get an idea into my head it's hard to stop me. I do have to apologize to those who are on this blog. Seems after reading my messages I've made it my agenda to try to nail a certain person. The real agenda should be "should a convicted sex offender be let out of prison, and if so, will he re-offend?" The truth is, the great majority of sex offenders do reoffend. My stance on that topic is not a popular one. I believe that the majority of the pot smokers (who occupy a tremendous amount of space in our prison system) should be let out and the majority of the sex offenders should be kept in prison. But that's another subject.

I have attempted to bring to the forefront that perhaps, just perhaps Kevin Coe didn't commit all of the sex offenses he's been accused of. Only he knows for sure what he's done and he's not talking. He admitted to one rape (to his defense team), but he's been held responsible for the other 42+ in the public's eyes.

I have someone in mind who fits into the timeline of these rapes. But I have no proof.

I stay active with this for the sake of letting detectives know I will not go away. I fear that this guy will be released, come back to Spokane and resume his vicious activities because he escaped the scrutiny of the public's eye. It would be horrifying if one more woman had to die because this guy was never given the attention he so justly deserves. And I swear on my honor as a pissed-off woman, that if this should happen and he is again sent up for another murder, I will come forth with guns blazing and let the public know that I tried for many years to get the detectives to listen to me.

ducks, I know that the detectives thought Fred thought he had killed someone but the never found the body. The only person that I do know that came up missing was Laurie Partridge. They Never found her.but she didn't fit the profile either. If you are thinking of someone else. Is that person in prison also? And when will he be out?. I am alittle concern when Fred get out becasue he never admitted to it and never got some counseling. That tells me he has a much deeper problem. Im sure he is the guilty one but there could have been copy cats out there.Marybe...
Asl for FRED's attorney... was it Maxey? I think he was His MOM"S attorney.Gigler was for the Our side and he is gone...

mym

Mary, the person I have in mind is serving time for murder and is still in prison. With time off for good behavior, it should be just a few short years before he can be released.

Roger Geigler was Kevin Coe's original defense attorney. Maxey entered the picture when it came time for the sentencing. He never did represent him at the trial. Yes, Geigler died a few years ago. So did Maxey.

I'm not familiar with the Laurie Partridge disappearance. Must look that one up. Never been found? That's the part that intrigues me. Several have never been found. In 1979, a young woman by the name of Gayla Scoffer (out of Moscow, Idaho) was kidnapped one morning while she fed her horses. She's never been found either. Pair these two with several other Spokane women and two from Coeur d'Alene, and we have a real mystery on our hands. Women have been abruptly kidnapped from our vicinity for years (starting about 1979, ending at the time my guy was sent to prison). Yes, since he's been in prison, women have stopped disappearing in this fashion.

Hi Lynn. I sure don't know about all of the spects of the Coe case, guess that's why I'm asking so many questions. And I'll keep asking, and asking, and asking I guess.

ducks, Patridge disapeared in 1976.. She was a Junior( I think) and was walking home on 37th during the day from Ferris. I was a Senior..They never found her. Her name has pop-up, recently in the news. As for Gigler, I think he worked for the other side. Im going to ask since I know the family real well... I Knew Carl Maxey was involved in it somewhere, besides defending ruth when she tried to hire the Killer to get rid on Judge Shields.. It was a regular payton place here at that time....chuckle...
and those were the good old days when you could drive down riverside in a convertable at night.....

mym

Ducks... did you know that Fred was married durring prison... Wonder what happen there...?Why would anyone want to get involved with a person like that? but there are those kind of women who like to be(want a be ) victims...
Some people really feed off that crap..

ducks, your right. Roger Gigler was on the coe team. I forgot about donald brocket....Well it was 30yrs ago.I listen the the tape of the spokesman review. Very good reporting.I have to admit, Coe was a Smooth one... I Still think he was the 100% guilty but there may be that one out there who killed..
Somewhere in the back of my mind Ive heard about your boy...Ill ask around to see if anyone knows about him...

Mary, now I remember the name of Partridge. Yes, it did come out in the news of late that she disappeared in 1976 under the circumstances you described.

I either didn't know or had forgotten that Kevin Coe had gotten married while in prison. Whether a person is guilty or innocent, I see no sense in people marrying someone who is in prison. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Mary, if you think you know who it might be, please, please don't say his name or give a hint. Perhaps we can figure out a way to meet, or correspond in private. OK?

Relax, I don't know the guy's name...
But it just seem to me that Ive heard something about this... it will come to me...I don't give names esp on the internet....unless I know for sure something is fact....and no one gets hurt.
Im alittle worried when Fred gets out now since he still claims he was framed. He 's a disturbed more than spokane thinks. And cops are right.

Thanks Mary. I pretty much knew from the way you write that there wouldn't be a problem.

your welcome.... I happen to know the HIPA laws

I'd be willing to sell everything I own and place the money on the odds that Kevin Coe would not return to Spokane.

Olsen's book was such a national flop that I've been unable to find it at any of our local bookstores. I'll go on Amazon today to see if I can get it. I do need to read it again, and again. I'm still up in the air about the descriptions given by so many victims.

Women are generally tremendously accurate about their description of their attacker or would-be attacker. However, many times the attack is so vicious they just blank it all out, but so many can remember every little detail about their face and when they see that face again they can nail him.

It was 6 years after my approach that I finally badgered the authorities into letting me help draw a sketch of my would-be attacker. 6 years. His face was still burned into my brain--especially his eyes. I finished the sketch in record time. Later, his face appeared in the newspaper, and bingo, that was him. Nailed his face after 6 years.

That's why I still have a lingering question about so many victims not being able to 100% identify Kevin Coe. We are generally so positive, so accurate about these things.

Ducks, I used to think Fred would never show his face again... UNTIL I read the review and it said that he NEVER got treatment...of any kind. Thats a Nasty FLAG... It tells me that he Will NEVER admit to the rapes. And that gives me the message "REVENGE"..
Who can tell at this point. Im just just glad MOM is gone now and I don't know to worry about her.
Fred(trys)gives off the idea he is a Upper class Gentelman(off of mom &dad)... But really he is a Seedy( 9&^%$Y&) who got his jollies from beating and rapeing women...Nothing good will never come from him.... I hope the authories will keep an eye out on him... But we ALL know how that goes....
The following Job Offers to FRED...
1.Catching bullets at the fireing range.
2.being a tazer dummie for the Police dept.
3.Drop him IRAC to be a super spy..
4. Parachute tester...for the french.
5. Move to france... Id kick in a few bucks for that.
Chuckle... so far thats all I can think of... Give me time...
I did love the comment from someone who thought he could go back in realastate...Does the word "LOCK BOX" mean anything...

mym

ducks,
iam very very disapointed in you!i thought you could see things from two sides!things in life arnt black and white(theres grey areas to!)things arnt that simple as being black and white.you havent half changed your tune havent you!now youve got your new friend mary to compare things with!iam very diss heartened ducks arter all wasnt it you that said there was a guy that looked like kevin coe all them years ago why wasnt he ever pulled in for questioning?because theres not only you that said that on here!and you was the one that also mentioned about the rape kits about them being destroyed!you contradict your self youve seemed nice then when you chat to mary your sideing with her whats that all about!how do you and mary know what kevins going to do when he comes out!both of yous saying that hell never make it!if you want to know any facts about the case the real facts that is!why dont you and mary watch "date line nbc"because kevin is going to do an interview in a week or so! i dont get that channel in england so ill leave it up to you and mary to fill me in seeing kevin is so bad and mary all ready knows the facts!

ducks,
i guess youve changed your mind havent you!because there was a time that you said you wanted "thinkers"not"reactionaries"
how people change heay!tell your friend from me!why should kevin go through treatment in there and admit to something he didnt do!hes protested his innocence all along dosent that say something!i guess not heay.

Ducks, I wouldn't think that a "sleeze Ball" like Fred Coe would have a groupie.She seems to think I get my information from the NEWS...I never get my information from the "MEDIA".If I did , then I would not have Supported the War. I would have never voted for George Bush. If I watch the News I would have been a LIBERAL... Which Im NOT...I get my information in other ways. Closer to HOME... I will not say where...
This Freak from so Called (england) needs to see we Americans have the Freedom to speak.. to which we
have paid dearly. So this Freak asked..
Who do you think you are... ?
Well Im a American. Im a middle age women, Yes! Im Married. (30yrs)... Yes, I work(full time)...and Im not a Blonde..
So Ill be looking for the Dumb Blonde standing out side Walla Walla when Fred gets out..... Holding some dump ass sign...
saying......(Ive got a OVEN MIT)and I can Scream.....That should get his attention...chuckle!!!!!!!!

Oh and Ducks... He wore a skie mask when he attacked...Im sure he wasn't dressed in a 3 piece suit... from nordstrom's or hamers, or brooke brothers..

Hi Lynn, I do understand your passion, but please understand I am not here to befriend or completely agree with just one person. There are so many aspects to this case. My platform from the start was and still is, "was there more than one rapist out there during those terrible years?" I do not know the extent of Kevin's activities, I'm just willing to bet that someone else was out there raping women.

When I said I was looking for "thinkers" versus "reactors", I meant that I was willing and anxious to hear all sides of the story. Someone willing to sit down and think things through. Someone willing to talk about specific points. I still believe that Kevin Coe was nailed with a bunch of crimes he didn't commit. And I'm still up in the air about which crimes I believe he did indeed commit.

I know his personality type. He was the type of guy who (for whatever reason) could not hold down a steady job, but still had an image to uphold. Men who put on the dog when they are essentially broke do weird stuff. Like steal steaks from a grocery story in order to impress the woman he's invited to dinner. Or something like taping yellow cellophane to your regular licence plate in order to make it look like a designer plate. Those aren't necessarily acts of a stalker anymore than they are acts of a person who needs to keep up an image.

And, Lynn, I've tried to develop a style that lets people say what they need to say without slam-dunking them. A "we agree to disagree" style that doesn't involve name-calling and personal attacks. I'm interested in the facts, because it's only through learning the facts that the truth comes out. All of this name-calling and fighting stuff just gets in the way.

Hi Mary. I know the attacker wore a ski mask in many of the attacks--but not all of the time. Therefore, many victims described their attacker as a young, collegiate type man with long, stringy hair. And he wasn't wearing a ski mask at the time he attacked women who described his pockmarked face. Some women got a good look at him. Those are the women I'd like to read about.

Ducks, there just may be others out there who took a chance in the Rape game. I don't know If I brought this up before but there was a time in the early 1970's we did have a local person the was rapeing Nurses between the 2 largest hospitals in spokane. I Remember the White Shoes were a Issue. And that kinda died down before the South Hill Rapist.Or shall we say Hushed up..
I know you have a good idea on someone who might have helped with the south hill thing.
As for Fred COE...He's Guilty of at least some or Most... And I could care less what the CORN-Nut groupie thinks... gee's I wish she would learn to type...
Oh and one more thing... I get my information from several sorces.. If I
tell you , then you could figure out who I am..... :)

Mary, what a mystery, eh? I can't tell you who I am and you can't tell me who you are. What a dillemma!!

I know I've said this before too, many times, but it bears repeating once again. I don't believe Kevin Coe is completely innocent. I will most certainly give on that point. This is not "flip-flopping", I've stated that all along. On the otherhand, I still find it incredibly difficult to believe he committed every act he's been pinned with.

In a perfect scenario, it would be awesome if he would come clean with all that he's done, so the others could be attributed to someone else. But, that's the stuff novels are made of, and it won't happen.

I'm digging for the truth because I believe my critter most definitely started his own activities in the late 1970's. If he had lived on the north, east or west side of town instead of the South Hill, if he didn't look like Coe's younger brother, and if he wasn't the same height as Coe, I wouldn't be questioning anything.

Lynn, I realize you think I'm flip-flopping again, but I'm trying to remain calm and focused and listen to all sides. Because, somewhere between "Kevin Coe committed every rape" and "Kevin Coe was framed, he is completely innocent of all crimes" is the where the truth lies.

I'm trying to dissect all of this and see what I come up with. That's why I'm remaining as calm as I can be. I could have ripped Lara back, tore out her liver and enjoyed it with a glass of wine, but arguing changes the focus and just doesn't accomplish anything. Instead, you have ended up defending yourself instead of making a good, solid case for Kevin. I don't believe he did everything he's accused of either, but I've learned the hard way that anger makes a real mess out of any point one is trying to get across.

The only thing I can think of saying at this time is that I doubt if the S/R will keep this blog going if two people continue to spit and claw at each other. Nobody else is posting at this time and I doubt if it's worth the S/R's time and $$ to enable people to continue to fight with one another and miss the point of why it was set up in the first place. I want this to continue because there are still so many points that need to be discussed re Kevin Coe.

Lynn, there is no such thing as a new best friend in this discussion. I agree and disagree with both of you. And, I'm not the self-appointed judge of this discussion. Flip-flopping behavior in order to gain new best friends is teenage behavior. In my own quest to find out what my critter has been up to, I've listened to many people with alternative opinions. It's only through careful listening, and not fighting, that one can gleen information. I have to be prepared to be wrong. No matter how passionate I believe that I am right. And believe me when I say that if I let my emotions get scattered, I have so much passion about this that I'd probably end up being a 4-state serial killer myself. That's what passion can do to you. It can eat you up internally.

ducks,
youve said you agree with me and mary right!well why dont you say to her to stop the name calling because its pathetic like you say this bloc is going to be stopped if she carrys on with the name calling shes started it not me!the last posting on here she said i want to learn how to type shes the one thats made about 5 spelling mistakes!not me!if you or the other person wants to check what ive actually said since ive been comming on here,ive never actually said kevin didnt do any of the rapes!so before mary starts with the name calling she really should check things out and where iam comming from.ive actually found out about something to do with the case something on my own (kevins not told me)its very intresting actually!i cant waite to see where the lawyers go with it!i cant say for obvious reasons ducks if i could say i would but youde be totally amazed!i a know a lot about forensics you see!i think spokane got whipped up in to such a frenzie that kevin is getting everything dumped on him!

Hi Lynn, can you give so much as a small hint about what you've found out (re forensics? Sounds interesting.

BTW you guys, I'm English too! LOL! And, I too voted for Bush (much to my dismay now). You might have guessed it. I'm neither a Republican or a Democrat. I vote all over the board. Just a little bit of nonsense trivia.

ducks,
i cant say anything about what i know because its like what ever happens in september for bad or worse it could mess things up for kevin so iam keeping stum!iam not comming on here for a few weeks ducks because i cant be bothered with all the bull.... its getting to much people are defeating the object for the wrong reason! arguing theres no need for all the verbal!
ducks did you post that last comment saying that your english to?or is that somebody else messing about again putting your name to that comment?its probably another dig at me! take care any way ducks

Lynn, it was me for sure. I am English and very proud of it. Only a 2nd generation U.S. citizen. Both families came to the U.S. about the turn of the century and landed at Ellis Island. We go back to the family of "Majors."

It's probably best to take a rest. Things were just getting too hectic from both sides.

I think that the low-class scumbag who wrote the message to me pretending it was you has left the site by now.

The Kevin Coe debate will no doubt rise up again come September. In the end, I doubt seriously if anything will come of anything. Coe will try to carve out a new life and I will continue to watch my critter.

Ducks. you are right. we are looseing the FOCUS....
Sorry for looseing my Cool... to later we shall be back for the debate. I got to get back to the genealogy...Im Irish!....
Mary

mym

Hi Mary. You're Irish? oh, oh. hahaha! Guess we're going to have to wait and see what happens on the Kevin Coe situation.

My Great grandmother was born in County Cork Ireland....
My Grandmother was born in NewYork...
her Father brought out 3 of his daughters to marry them off to business men in Moscow Idaho(1870's)... ....now Try to track me... It not that hard..... mary

Guess it's time to tell you that I'm no rocket scientist! Do you live in Moscow, Idaho? This is getting interesting.

The reason I chuckeled about your being Irish is the fact that while very few of us are 100% of any nationality, I'm not 100% English. About 95% English and 5% Irish! That's why I got such a kick out of you!

I would really like to have a sit-down with you some day to further discuss the Coe case, stuff I can't say here. But don't have the slightest idea of how to go about it because I cannot give any information that would allow others to know who I am. You see, this critter's mother (whom he had a violent love/hate relationship with), knows all that he's done and just might be tracking things. His father stated he has had nothing to do with his son for years. Heard that his father beat the crap out of him while his mother enabled him, then told him she wish she had aborted him.

Lara stated that she thought I was playing the victim's role and couldn't get over it. She was so very wrong. I think what drives me is the fact that I have the gut feeling that I drew him to Julie Weflen. That's a hard thing to swallow. Julie wasn't scheduled to check the substation in N.W. Spokane that day. Was just in the area and decided to check it. I always rode my horse in the nearby arena around 2:00 p.m. -- every day. Something a woman should never do. Go to a secluded place alone, on a daily schedule. He was watching the stables that summer, caught onto my schedule and was waiting for me when Julie passed by in her truck with government licence plates. She was taken the same time of day I rode my regular schedule. That's what drives me. That's why I can't seem to give up.

Back to Kevin Coe. I still have a lot of questions about the case. But I must say that I'm surprised at the low number of people who have come forth and posted their disgust with this situation. I was expecting to see a huge number of people willing to express their feelings. All of Spokane was so traumatized by this, and all of Spokane wants to see him stay put. But so few have expressed that.

ducks. I will pass on the information of to on of Julie's family members... (Family Member by marriage)...
as for meeting... I really have no other information... That I can think of. when Coe gets out then this boad will be busy..... Mary

mym

Cool! I've thought of getting hold of Julie's husband in the past, but promised a detective I would not call him. The detective was very curious as to whether I would do that or not. Here's an interesting note about that. The original detective I sent my stuff too was convinced enough to call me and let me know that this guy was going into Julie's file as a "suspect." Not just a person of interest, but a "suspect." Then, he up and retired! Plum disappeared on me. Next thing I know, I'm talking to another detective about a year later who told me he was taken out of the "suspect" file because a check of his timecards revealed he was at work that day and could not have been in the vicinity of Julie's disappearance. B.S. He was in the vicinity 2 weeks later (mid-day) when he tried to lure me! And his timecards revealed that he was at work that day too! Yep, I found out from his co-workers that it was possible for employees to slip in and out of the jobsite during the day.

You're right. This site will get real busy come September.

ducks... my e-mail is...MYM20041@aol.com

Just a note to everyone that you may find comments missing because I cleaned up this topic in the past week. Thank you for not making personal attacks, and thank you for taking off-topic chatter to another venue.

So when if Fred Going to be on Date LINE?

Something nobody mentioned is that Kevin Coe was a master of disguise. I was a victum and the detective showed me two huge desks, pushed together totally covered with pictures. He asked me to pick out, if any, the picture that looked like the man that attacked me. I did and he said "would you believe all of those pictures are Kevin. He was a master of disguise." That's probably why not all of the women could positively identify Keving in the lineup.

How very interesting, thank you. Did he mostly change the way he dressed?

The way he dressed and his hair. Long short, curly, straight, Light to dark. He did it all. One thing he couldn't change was his thin lips. When I went back over the pictures I saw the thin lips in every one.

After I was attacked I heard that the women he attacked were mostly small with dark hair. That's me. Anybody else out there a victim of his that's small with dark hair?

My heart goes out to you as a victim, Barbara. No woman should have to go through such a horrific experience.

I'm thinking that the police must have followed Coe for a long time in order to get such a large assortment of pictures. Then again, if he changed his appearance daily....

These psychos usually pick women who have certain characteristics. Such a horrific side to these predators.

Would like to talk to the girls that were riding the horses and got spooked by that guy that lived in an abandoned cabin. Was that near Little Horse Shoe Lake, in Spokane?

These women (girls) were approached while riding out of Rivermere Stables in 1987. The Stables are located in the 7-Mile area.

I knew there were riding stables out near Little Horseshoe Lake but never new the name of it. I also think that the lake is in the 7 mile area. Knew a guy that lived in a cabin near the lake and rode a horse. Makes me wonder.

Anyway, the woods sure were being stalked (7-mile area) during the summer of 1987, but not by a guy on horseback, he was on foot or riding a small mountain bicycle.

Back to Coe. I'm curious as to how long he was being followed by the police in order to get so darn many different pictures of him in disguises. For some reason, these disguises still intrigue me.

hello ducks,
iam back lol i thought ide come on here and see what people have been saying!its nice to see kevins got a new friend in barbara!nothing gets past you my friend does it ducks?meaning the pictures! how stupid for someone to come on here and say that the police had two full desks of pictures of kevin coe shuved together i doubt very much that the police would let someone go round rapeing women while they accumilated all of those pictures.and ducks kevin always seemed to me to have nice short hair and clean shaved so how could he have short hair one minute then curly hair then long?i think barbara has definately got her wires crossed thats why all the women couldnt identify him lmao didnt the rapist not kevin wear a ski mask?back to the pictures for one second lets just say that all of those pictures are of kevin wouldnt his features be the same? and if the film is anything to go by didnt the police have a female officer pretend she was buying a house just so they could get a picture it dosent make sence.ducks i wish i could tell you something to do with kevins case but if i write it on here who evers in charge of this sight might scrub out what i write! if you only knew then it would definately shut people up and they de be a lot of red faces!

I have to come out and say upfront that I believe Barbara is a brave soul for coming on this blog, as she was a victim. And I believe that she saw what she saw, which piqued my curiosity.

One idea that initially ran through my head was the timeline. Were these photos taken of Coe over a 2-year span? A 6-month span? A one-month span? How many different looks did he have? Did he seem to look much younger in some? Was he on a bicycle, in his car or jogging? Did he wear a wig or something to make him look like he had long hair?

If he had a lot of different looks, he had props. Were these ever found in his home? (I don't remember if articles beyond the ski mask and oven mits were found in his possession.)

Just curious thoughts.

Fred Coe....What was he.?.. Well he wasn't stupid... He was a Man with the silver spoon, couldn't keep a job,
A (girl friend beater)seedy, Mommy's boy, Looser... enough said... rapist, like older "dark hair" women, NEVER took responsibily for his action... Mommy took care of it...
will probably be let out in Sept. and look out spokane...
At least Yates will never get out..
Fred is a concern for Spokane...who knows...

mym

I think that in lieu of Fred Coe's release.....everyone should go out and buy up all the oven mitts, so as he cant get ahold of any....you know he'll want em...

Yes! he did have a fondness for the old oven-mit.Women are different today than at that time... we fight back if we have a chance...
He'll probably get the "snot" kicked out of him.... HOPE SO....

mym

lynn,

How dare you call me stupid for telling it the way it was. You are stupid for not taking it the way I said.

3 times I have tried to send comments and 3 times this stupid thing is telling me that the letters don't match. I have so much to say and it's not getting through. If this doesn't get through I'll be done with it.

Guess I'll make it short. Maybe it'll get through. Kevin Coe put a fear in me that sent me to a self-defense class. I never put my keys in my purse when I go somewhere. They are on a hook, hooked on the outside of my purse or on my jeans. They are in my hand on the way to my rig. I never walk anywhere I don't have to.

Barbara

Not impossible to change the hair quickly. I change mine every few months or quicker with hairpieces. Been doing it for years.
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Barbara

Barb, There is alot worst out there beside Coe... Keep those keys handy...
I see the "tip of the iceberg" on what is on the Spokane streets.
You never kow who your neighbor is..

mym

Babara
first of iam not stupid!i cant take it the way you say it because youve not explained yourself! you say you was a victim! what victim?was you one of the 30+ or one of the 6 that kevin was convicted on? and you know that 5 of them was eventually overturned!for obvious reasons,so i woant go there if you dont want me to!you say that the police had two big tables shuved together full of pictures of kevin coe you didnt know this untill the police pointed it out to you!

wouldnt all of his features be the same? unless he had a false nose on or prostetics on?and if it was that case how would the police know the pictures was him?i cant see the police waiting untill they accumilated pictures of kevin if he was a definate suspect wouldnt they pull him in ?i cant see the police force allowing all them women to be raped!like you say if all them pictures was of kevin he would of been a suspect wouldnt he?

Babara
ive got nothing against you, but you and ducks and mary are probably in a better position to know more about the case than me all iam saying is that everything dosent add up!they didnt have no dna on kevin what so ever! well i dont know about the conviction that still stands?but theres the book! the film i have seen it sins of the mother theres things in it thats discusting very bad! but i dont know how much of that film is truth full or made up?i dont know how someone can make a film when kevin didnt give no interviews thats strange?i dont know weather his sister did!and she wasnt even portrayed in the sins of the mother so i cant see that!babara have you or mary or ducks seen the interview on datelinenbc yet? i dont know weather its been done yet?

I've been looking for the Dateline special but haven't seen it as of this date Lynn. I'm obviously very anxious to see what that's all about.

The photos of Kevin Coe dressed in different ways as to disguise himself intrigued me from the timetable standpoint. My first question was, "if they were taking these photos of him over an extended period of time, why didn't they make an arrest sooner?" If he was being followed so closely as to get a bunch of photos, why couldn't they catch him in the act??? If Kevin was changing his appearance daily, he was a very busy boy indeed. I believe those photos were taken over a period of time and if Kevin was the one and only rapist committing the crimes, and was being followed so closely as to have a bunch of photos taken, I ask again, why wasn't he caught committing a rape or attempting to commit a rape?

I wasn't called to testify the first time because they called the most victimized. Now they're calling everybody because the creep is trying to get out. All of those pictures on the desks were taken over a period of years. When I focused on just the hair there was only one of those pictures that looked liked him the night he attacked me. When I looked at the pictures again I recognized the thin lips in every picture that I overlooked the first time because I was focusing on the hair thinking that the pictures were of a lot of different guys. I was shocked when I realized they were all the same guy, Kevin Coe.

Now it's making more sense to me. Thanks Barbara. Sounds like photos of him were gathered from various other sources rather than following him.

hello again,
babara i understand what your saying!but i agree with ducks about the pictures if they was taken over a period of may be a few years! wouldnt that mean he was a suspect? and like ducks says if the police was following him like they did to get all of them pictures how come they didnt get him in the act?and in the film didnt a police woman have to pretend to buy a house just so they could get a picture of him!and babara you didnt say weather he was charged with your rape!if he was the police would of had dna wouldnt they?ill ask again was you one of the 30+ or one of the 6 kevin was eventually convicted on?

Remember, our esteemed prosecutor, protector of the people and seeker of the truth (Donald Brockett) "inadvertently" gave orders to have all evdidence relating to future proof destroyed. So there would have been no DNA from any victim to either prove Coe's innocence or guilt. As far as I'm concerned, this was a criminal act on Brockett's part.

ducks,
i totally agree with you about don brockett iam just getting to that!because of what he did regarding the rape kits his job was on the line did you know that?he was took of the case by court order!and thats a fact straight from the horses mouth as we all say.kevins s.... count was a normal 80% like any other man don brockett knew this thats why he ordered them to be destroyed because he knew kevin wanted everything to be tested ahain! also there was dna back then obviously not now but what i can gather from them samples the sperm count was low so who ever was rapeing all of them women years ago it couldnt of been kevin who ever it was, was fireing blanks!

ducks,
you and other people on here have previously said that kevin had a double! i know this was common knowledge so why didnt the police pull him in?and why wasnt that weirdo who lived in a cabin in the woods ever get pulled in? like me and you to have both said before theres to many unanwsered questions about this case!i think everything reached boiling point and the police was under that much pressure once they got kevin they wouldnt let go!what i can gather the press wasnt the far behind whipping everybody up in to a frenzie!i dont know how much from the film is true! but i know this also as a fact no bull honest this is another thing straight from the horses mouth! i dont know how much of a conspiracy there was! but all i can say is that some police chief or sargent did have something against the coes because years before he brought some sort of cival suit or proceedings against kevins dad when he was running the news paper and when everything got to court the police chief or sargent lost!you know ducks no body likes to loose from people like that who have money people get the green eyed monster jealousy i suppose left a bitter sweet taste i his mouth!

Rape Kits..... In my field for work, i don't think Rape Kits started until the 80' and this was going on in the 70's. I have a sorce to ask. When i see him, I will ask him. He was here, he would know....

Funny thing here... since Fred has been sent to Prison, there have been NO rapes like the ones he did.... and no phone calls... Face it people... he was the guy... Guilty!!! Do I think he should spend more time in the pen... Frankly, No, He did his time. Set the creep free... Just remember... HE IS THE ONE at RISK>. someone may just get to him.You just never know...Memories...

lynn,

Who said anything about the pictures being taken when he was followed? I didn't say that. The pictures were photographs that were probably taken out of photo albums out of his home. I didn't watch the movie because movies leave out a lot of facts and create others. And no he wasn't charged with my attack because it wasn't as brutal and I wasn't even called for the line up!

babara,
youve just said that all the photos were from photo albums from his house!thats very strange because what different would that do if there all from different ages through out his life?i dont think he would of had wigs on and prostetics on at an early age!
mary,
youve said about the rapes in the 70'didnt the south hill rapes start in 1978 or 1979 to 1981 or 1982 there was only a 2 year time scale for the south hill rapes?mary for real there was rapes kits back then if they wasnt they wouldnt of been destroyed would they!
babara,
why wasnt dna samples took i think they call it swabs iam not so sure?you say youre rape wasnt brutal enough whos said that to you?because thats discusting for an officer of the law to treat you like that.
mary,
i for got to mention that kevin wasnt in spokane through all of the 1970'and thats for real no bull honest!

Lynn, I will ask that information. as for him being out of here in the 70's.. How would you know.. You from another country... right? Does anyone know when fred graduated from Lewis and Clark?im thinking early 70's

mym

mary,
the information i found about him not being in spokane in the early 70' its not hard to find out if you still live in spokane youll probably be in a better position to find out more!i would ask him but i think hes fell out with me lol he can kiss the north side of my hay hole any way when he graduated i dont know weather he went back to his mum and dads straight away (not what i can gather)i know last week kevin did do an interview with someone from the spokane review and it will be on there web sight next week it was with some guy i dont know his name as far as dateline i dont know! mary all i can say about the 30+ rapes is that even tho he might of admitted to what ever amount its unfair for the public to dump all of the un solved ones on him! come on now be real and fair

Off the topic... Today Jim west died.. They only problem I had with Mr West is that he surfed the internet while working. Who He slept with made no matter to me... I will say that in ALL the yrs I have Voted, He was the Best Mayor we ever had...He did HIS job. As for the Review.. im sure this will be deleted in a day... But SHAME ON YOU -Spokesman Review.. What you did was "In Trapment.." Im sure you will be cutting a pretty Large Check to his family...like I said.. Im sure this will get deleted in no time...
but this falls under the " Freedom of speech... may the good lord take care of Jim west... God know this town put him thru HELL....ok Back to fredrick harlan COE...mym

mary,
ive seen what youve wrote thats the only problem on forums like this if you say anything thats getting to near the truth it will be deleated! what was en trapment?and why will they be cutting a large cheque to his family? if he done something wrong?mary are we on about the same person?

Im talking about Jim West our old mayor... entrapment is when you go out of your way to bring out something
on someone.. Expample... Hiring someone to go into Gay Chat rooms and hit on a certain person so you can prove he is gay...

I'm sure glad we have the question of the photos answered. Barbara did not say they were recent photos, but I couldn't guess just how old they might be.

I'm pretty sure Coe graduated sometime in the mid- 1960's here in Spokane. He's 59 now? That would put him graduating about 1965.

A little side note about Jim West. The really sad part about his story is the fact that he was a very good mayor. One of the best Spokane has ever had regarding his mayoral duties. A very sad ending to a very sad story.

Hiring someone to go into Gay Chat rooms and hit on a certain person so you can prove he is gay...

That's not what happened. The computer consultant was hired to verify activity that was already taking place. West was the one who approached the decoy (based on his profile as a 17-year-old Spokane student) and initiated discussion. I would advise you to take another look at the investigation before spreading misinformation.

well we can split hairs here... But Lets wait to see when this goes to court... Thats when it will get good. Im sure Mr West. got his case ready before he died.... Chuckle... Can't wait...
Also, The decoy Profile states he's 17 but he went into the site as a 18yr. hmmmmmmmm... Did you know that you really don't have much protection for your child after they turn 16. By Law , they can have Constenting sex..it will be thrown out... as in the case of the Fireman... sad as it is... Parents HAVE no rights....

A new question is rambling through my head. There is a push on to keep Coe in prison for the rest of his life. What would have to be presented to the courts in order for that to happen? Brockett gave "inadvertent" orders to have crucial evidence destroyed. So, other than pure public opinion, what is left from a tangible standpoint to keep him on the inside? I'm not familiar with this process, and am wondering what type of proof or paperwork it would take to keep this man behind bars after all evidence has been destroyed.

mary,

The pictures were not from his childhool. Teenage on.

barbara,

I was attacked in 1976.

mary

I was not beat up

lynn

You write funny. Most of it is hard to figure out and doesn't make sense.

Ducks, If Evidence was destroyed, In our court system he would get out... No Proof. Mr brockett doesn't have that kind of Power to keep him in.. Im sure Coe will get out... He's done his time...With early release... Is this a concern.?.. hell yes... BUT at least we know who and what his is. Its the OTHERS that scare me....

Barbara, were you one of his targets in this case?

What do you mean target? If getting attacked isn't being a target, what is?

Barbara, I use Target because that is what he did. He "cased Out" his women to whom he attacked... Small, Dark hair.. Mostly middle age... I don't like to use the word " Victim" because to me that gives him the Upper edge in this . He is a Sick *&^% who gets his"jollies Off" on attacking women.. and makeing them Victim's..
Thats whats in the Mind of a Rapist.
Tough Guy... Attacks women, makes them Victim... Frankly , they are Cowards.. They make "great Girlfriends in PRISON'

Guess I was a target. I weighed 105 with dark hair, and 5 ft tall. I was definitely a target.

Well Barbara, Im sorry. You never would have seen it comming. He was good at what he did. i can tell you that this is 2006 and US women of spokane are a different breed. We won't take it anymore... Im sure when he gets out.. He won't come here.. Unless he is really stupid... And he was never stupid....

mym

mary,
i know what entrapment is!lol and i gathered you was on about jim west,why was it any bodys buisness if he was chatting to people in a gay chat room i dont understand?thats what chat rooms are for arnt
they?
babara,
i write funny!and what i do write is hard to figure out!and dosent make sence! well that dosent say much about you does it!no wonder kevin wasnt charged with your rape so there hows about that then!
ducks,
you are right there is 3 points that tod bowers has got to prove to a judge/jury and he cant!i hope he really gets out the poor guys done his time its about time the system and the public give kevin a chance!

Lynn, Mr West was useing the CITY Computer and was doing it On the Citys
Time... Not his... Do I think he should have lost his Job...? Hmmmmm No
Not really... You tell me who hasn't been on the computer while at work..AN bringing it out of the closet was enough... my God... now the whole world know your personel life.. that really was enough.... TO MUCH INFORMATION...!!!!
My he rest in peace...

Lynn, Who is todd Bowers?A new Attorney?... AS for letting Fred have a Chance... don't worry... He won't be able to fart in Public without it makeing National News....." GIve Kevin(aka Fred)... a chance... thats a Joke.

hi mary,
well i see sort of!thats stupid every body skives at work he was sacked from his job was he for using the computer? thats ridiclous it sounds to me they made an example of him because he was a public figure!mary was he gay?if he was it sounds like they made it public to humiliate him and embarrass him and his family!thats wrong we are who we are at the end of the day!mary you should know who tod bowers is!

mary,
lol you are funny he woant be able to fart in public! i dont know about that he woant ba able to breath in public!

I seem to be stuck in the thought of how things might be turning out in the Coe case if the prosecutor had not given "inadvertent" orders to destroy physical evidence. Think of the many samples from many victims that could now be tested for DNA identification. Seems there would be only two possible outcomes now. If they tested in favor of Coe committing the act, he probably would have an excellent chance of spending the rest of his life in prison. But if a bunch didn't contain his DNA, it would at least tell us that there was some "overlapping" going on between two (or more) predators.

At least we'd know one way or the other. Now we'll never know. Thanks Mr. Brockett. Thanks a lot from the people of Spokane.

ducks,
ive all ready said this the 6 rapes that kevin was initally convicted on then 5 was over turned that was for a reason!don brocket ordered them to be destroyed because he knew that kevin wanted them tested again at his re trial!i think it was 85 or 86 don brockett ordered then to be destroyed 3 years before his re trial!the sperm count in the rape kits proved it wasnt kevin rapeing all of them women because the sperm count was low so who ever it was,was fireing blanks!kevins sperm count is a normal 80% so it couldnt of been him!

lynn

You are too much a liberal. I'm tired of responding to idiot people like you. You don't know what's going on because you are too critical and need to shut up and listen to the victims and stop talking about things that don't have anything to do with what's being said. You're putting things into it that don'y belong. You're talking instead of listening. You weren't a victim, I was. Instead of being critical, listen. Ask some intelligent questions once in a while.
You making no sense has nothing to do with why he wasn't charged with my attack. You were talking instead of listening or you would have read and comprehended what I said.

Barbara

BARBARA, Good Comment... some women are Prison Groupies... They will beleive anything they are told...

babara,
you say iam to liberal!i dont think so!your tired of responding to idiot people like me! well dont then!and i dont know whats going on because iam to critical i need to shut up and listen to the victims instead of talking about things what havent got nothing to do with whats being said!and what has to critical got to do with it?i talk facts and thats it!and what things do i add ?and i wasnt a victim and?whats that got to do with it?ive read what you wrote!and you say that kevin wasnt charged with your rape because it wasnt brutal enough!thats bull because if he really did rape you the police would have dna now wouldnt they!did you have defence wounds?did you have brusing scratches wounds etc if not that only says one thing to me!you cant blame an innocent man for your rape get a life!

babara,
you sound like you are a very bitter woman it sounds to me that you wanted a piece of kevin!did he blank you or what?i bet he wouldnt have nothing to do with you would he!thats why youve made all this bull up god for give you!or did you have a boyfriend and you cried rape?or did you want 5 minutes of fame and you decided to jump on the public band waggon?lol you should of keapt your legs shut and fought your rapist off instead of blameing your rape on poor kevin! liar liar tongues on fire!

You're getting way, way too out of control again Lynn.

mary,
you say good comment some women are prison groupies and they will believe anything that they are told! not me mary!your brain cells must be deminishing because you cant remember anything can you?ive all ready said that kevins fell out with me so how can i believe what iam told?and kevins never ever told me anything to do with his case ive found out things on my own!kevins been rail roaded at the end of the day!its definately true what people say about the irish lol!there thick as pig s... lol

ducks ,
iam getting out of controll again why am i?iam sticking up for kevin i say what i say and thats it!ducks i dont dress things up and i dont dress them down either and if thats not excepted well what can i say!i talk facts and thats it don brocketts the one that made a mistake not poor kevin!all i can say ducks i do go a bit over board when people agrivate me but thats me!you dont say nothing to babara or mary do you?is that because your all in your little click in spokane?ducks ive come on here with my real name yous lot probably havent!i dont know that tho!ive got nothing to hide saying that iam not saying you have either!but ive told kevin about me you and mary and babara word for word what weve all said so hell know iam not some fruit cake so i dont care what yous all think of me and that guy from this spokane review has probably told him any way when he interview him last week!(i told kevin a long time ago what weve all said)

ducks,
i woant be on here for a week now so you and mary and babara can all chat between your selfs and slag a poor innocent man off.

Lynn,
You are just kinda creepy. Your response to Barbara was way over the top. Most of your responses are over the top but that was just way out of line and disturbing. You are so protective and defensive when it comes to Kevin that if it wasn't for the fact that I know his mother is dead I would wonder if you weren't her.

jjw,
iam kinda creepy lol why?and my responce to babara was way over the top why lol?it was just way out of line and disturbing well thats up to you isnt it?i talk straight no bull ive been truth full on this forum babara hasnt she dosent anwser anything straight!she beats about the bush just look at the fact about the pictures how long she had us all going on about that!and thats just an example!

jjw,
yes iam protective over kevin and its not a matter of being defensive iam sick of people not being nice to him every body is nasty to him no bodys giveing him a fair chance hes done his time he should be let go!cival commitment is stupid thats a double sentence at the end of the day it should be abolished!its a fact that spokane was full of weirdos so the public of spokane cant blame everything on kevin!spokane was full of rapists and murderers!

JJW... THIS IS ANOTHER FINE EXAMPLE OF A "PRISON GROUPIE"...A WOMEN WHO CAN
NOT FIND A MAN ON THE OUTSIDE SO THE LOOK IN THE PRISONS FOR SOMEONE TO LOVE. Kinda sad , don't you think?

OK folks. You've been warned a couple of times already.

We're shutting down this thread.